Sid: I have on the telephone my sister and brother-in-law. They have made Aliyah, and that means they have immigrated to Israel. I caught up with them in Washington, DC area, and I have my sister Shirley on the phone. And we kind of want to talk about how we came to the Lord. Now I had been involved with something called Silva Mind Control and almost lost it. I almost lost my mind and I almost died; I went into a realm, and I didn’t know what I was doing. If I had not had an encounter with Jesus I would have ended up dead, in a mental institution, in a prison, or maybe all three. So I am one grateful Jewish person. Now I recall talking to my sister about a cousin that was living with her that she had horrible problems with… Shirley what was going on with Terry at the time?
Shirley: Well, she came to live with us while she was in high school because her father had died one year when she was 13. And then the very next year her mother passed away when she was 14. She then went to live with our aunt and she was having a lot of problems there and you know the family discusses things. So my husband and I decided since we only had one child at that time and a big house that Terry could come live with us. So that’s how Terry ended up in our home.
Sid: But the problems were not solved by just changing homes; what was she into?
Shirley: No, no we didn’t know this when we invited her to come (laughing); only God knew I guess. She was involved in taking drugs; she wanted to kill herself when she was in our home. She threatened to kill herself and she actually cut her wrists; she locked herself in the door and was yelling I’m killing myself and we had to call the police. We didn’t know what to do we didn’t know how to help Terry; I was only in my late 20’s at that time. I didn’t know how to handle a teenager who was having these types of problems.
Sid: Flashback a little bit and tell me what Judaism meant to you.
Shirley: Judaism, let’s see I grew up in a traditional Jewish home. I went to Sunday School; I learned to read Hebrew for prayers in the synagogue; I believed that there was a God but I didn’t believe that He was relevant in my life here on this earth. I believed that there was a God but he was somewhere far off and maybe I’d see Him one day when I died. That was basically all I knew about God.
Sid: Okay so we are talking on the telephone and you’re telling me what’s going on with our cousin and you’re at your wits end. And I said to you I have a friend that has prayed for people with drug problems and similar problems and everything that he prays for gets healed. And so gets delivered and so the only thing is that he will pray in the Name of Jesus. Now what did you say.
Shirley: I remember that very well; and I said to you “I really don’t care whose name he prays in if he can help Terry bring him over.” And that’s when we started devising out little plan. And I remember saying “Well, if Terry knows this man’s coming over to talk to her she just won’t be around that evening.” So we just decided to tell her that this was a business associate of my husband Marc. It was a social evening so Terry helped me prepare a nice dinner you were there and we all sat down for dinner. And I remember Don started talking about Jesus. And my ears like were like electric because I never heard the things that he told me about Jesus. Here I was growing up in Christian America and I was 28 years old and for the first time I heard Jesus was Jewish. And he was telling us things about Jesus that I had never heard in my life. Because in our home growing up it was told to us that Jesus was for the Gentiles and Jesus was not for the Jews and we have nothing to do with Jesus and that was the end of it. So I was… something in me became alive and I was so curious about what Don was saying to us that evening.
Sid: What happened with him praying for Terry?
Shirley: Well, as a result Terry did become a believer but it didn’t happen that evening. What happened that evening when he came over Terry after dinner very politely excused herself from the table, but Don kept talking to my husband, myself and you and we were all ears and I remember him challenging me. And he said to me “If what I’m telling you is true about Jesus; if what I’m telling you that there is a Heaven and a Hell and there is an eternity and the only way to get to that Heaven is through Jesus. Don’t you owe it to yourself to research this important question? Don’t just believe what your father told you or what his father told him or and so forth back through the generations. It’s too important of a question to just leave without researching it for yourself. And something in me clicked and I said “You’re right it is too important of a question I need to find out the truth.” And then that’s when I started searching with all my heart for the truth about Jesus. And that led me into my testimony. Are you interested in hearing it?
Sid: That’s why we’re talking. Hey hey Mishpochah this goes back a lot of years and I’ve shared my sister and my brother-in-law’s testimony from my perspective but yeah, I’m very interested from your perspective Shirley; tell me.
Shirley: Well, after that evening I started reading the Bible for the first time; I had never read the Bible before. I had heard all the good stories in the Old Testament but I had never read it myself. I started reading it that night. I wanted to go to meetings where people were talking about Jesus; I wanted to find out more about him and so I asked my husband Marc to take me to these meetings because some of them were really far. And I remember one evening that it was like an hour and half drive from us. This called Derrick Prince was going to be speaking. And he had a very interesting ministry it was about deliverance and I heard deliverance was a really good show interesting this happened. As you can see at this time I was not a believer but I was searching but I didn’t believe that there was a Satan. I believed that he was a cartoon character and so I wanted to go see the good show. So my husband and I drove an hour and a half to this church; we sit through…
Sid: I had set you up; I told you that there would be people that demons would come out of them. Do you think that you really believed this?
Shirley: No, I didn’t believe this at all; I thought that it was a good show like I said. So I sit through this message for about an hour he spoke. And then he says at the very end only people that feel they have demons need to be exercised can go below but I don’t want any onlookers to go down. And I turned to my husband and said “Oh no we sat through this whole sermon and now we can’t even see the show,” and I had this brilliant idea. I said to myself “I know, I thought that they were going to ask me as I walked through the door; name your demon.” And so if they ask me if I have a demon I’ll say “I must have a demon because I don’t believe in demons.” And so I had this little scenario in my mind how I would answer them if they asked me who my demon was or what my demon was and nobody asked me anything. We all sit down there were maybe a 100 people there Derrick Prince gets up and says a very simple prayer, “In the Name of Jesus I command all foul spirits to leave.” And that’s all he said; and no screaming, no yelling and I thought that it was going to be such a good show.
Sid: By the way at the time my sister was a school teacher and a very credible member of the community. Not the type of person that would do what you are about to hear; go ahead.
Shirley: Okay, well after the prayer I start hearing some coughs around the room and then I started hearing a little whimpering; a little crying. And then all the cry’s become screams and they aren’t human screams anymore. And the hair on my arms started standing up, I started getting chills; I didn’t like what was going on it was scaring me. And so I leaned over to Marc to say “I want to leave; I don’t like this anymore.” I noticed when I opened my mouth my tongue did a flip in my mouth and I couldn’t speak. And then I looked down…
Sid: I’ll tell you what hold that thought I’ll pick up here on tomorrow broadcast.
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