Sid: As regular listeners know I interviewed several months ago Hal Lindsey. I normally do not ask guest to come back as quickly as I did with Hal but I recently got a hold of his video “Evidence of the End Time.” And he has put together the last days scenario in such an articulate fashion putting things together that very few people have seen at all but the whole thing put together. Hal Lindsey tell me why you did this particular teaching video?
Hal: Well I just felt that things are coming together in such a rapid fashion. Things that I’ve seen that the exact scenario that I’ve seen in prophecy for over 40 years; that it was time to really put these things together all in one place and try to show people that though we don’t know the day or the hour which means the exact time we are commanded to know the generation or the general time. And I really believe that we’re in it and rapidly moving toward the events that will lead to the second coming of Christ.
Sid: Now you talk a lot about Daniel and what he had to say in Daniel 12 about what would happen about understanding the Bible would you explain that?
Hal: Yeah, Daniel probably received more volume of prophecy than any other single man in the Bible. And toward the end of life and when he had received what was would be the last installment God gave him he was confounded. He appealed to God to show him the meaning of all of the things he had been revealed to; that had been revealed to him. And God told him to go his way and in verse 9 he said… in verse 8 Daniel said “As for me I heard but I couldn’t understand so I said ‘My Lord what would be the outcome of these events?’” And He said “Go your way Daniel because these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time, many will be purged and purified and refined but the wicked will not understand, but those that have insight will understand” (Because I believe he’s talking about the believer with a gift and the Holy Spirit showing him). He uses a Hebrew verb concealed and concealed and filled up that really would mean today encrypt or encode these things until the end time. You know I studied that and I remember I was writing kind of a commentary on the book of Revelation that I call “A New World Coming.” And I begged God I said “Lord there are many symbols in the book of Revelation that are not explained anywhere else in the Bible as some of them are.” I said “Help me to understand these things.” And so as I was mulling this over the words of Daniel came to me and I realized that there were some things in the book of Revelation that would not be understood until the time they began to unravel. And then the Holy Spirit caused me to think of the times the Apostle John said over and over and over “I looked and I saw and I heard.” In fact, I saw that at the beginning of every new revelation that God got in the book of Revelation he used the Greek words “I looked, I saw and I heard” that indicated that he was an eyewitness of what he was about to reveal. In fact, Jesus commanded him in the first chapter “Write only what you saw and heard.” So how could a 1st Century man be a witness to events that haven’t happened yet?” And then I realized God must have time traveled him up to the end time and let him actually see the horrific events particularly those that had to do with global war and had him witness that. So how could a 1st century man describe something in lets say the 21st century and all of the marvels of science and technology? How could he explain an inter-continental ballistic missile? How could he describe a nuclear explosion? How could he describe the modern things that we have in warfare? He would have to say “I looked and I saw and it looked like and use a vocabulary of the 1st century to try to describe what’s going on today. And I believe that’s exactly what’s happening today. In fact, this is what’s going on with many of the prophets the symbols they used, the way that they saw to describe them where in terms of phenomenon with which they were familiar in there times.
Sid: You know you made a statement to me before we went on the air you said “You know Sid I do my live show on television on a one day delayed basis and that’s a problem because one day things are happening so rapidly it creates a problem for me.
Hal: Isn’t that amazing! But that’s what’s happening things are happening so fast.
Sid: So listen, are you going to be alive in these last time events that you talk about in your video?
Hal: Well if I have my life expediency my father died when he was 95, and I’m now 74. If I live my normal projected life expediency I certainly believe I’ll be alive when all of this comes to being fulfilled.
Sid: I mean after devoting and I’m reminded from the last time I interviewed you is that as a young child you were on your Aunts knee so to speak, and rather than watching cartoons to kind of keep you busy she did something very unique she read the book of revelation to you. But I believe that she was planting seed inside of you for such a time as this.
Hal: I know that all of my relatives could not understand why she did this she must have read the book of revelation to me over and over maybe 50 – 60 times. My mother said that even though I was extremely young I would sit there with rapt attention. (Laughing)
Sid: Hm.
Hal: Of course I didn’t become a believer until I was 25 years old so I believe she did plant seeds that never were taken away.
Sid: Well, I was a little slower I didn’t become a believer until I was 30 years old. But you know as you’re saying that I’m reminded in the book of Revelations that “Blessed is he who… (what does it say) who hears these words.”
Hal: Hm, hm.
Sid: So you were being blessed at such a young age. (Laughing)
Hal: Yeah, I didn’t know it my parents.
Sid: Well, you know when the thing that amazing me Hal is not how we see things today the thing that amazes me is before Israel was a modern day nation saints of old would read the scriptures and they would say “I know that Israel will be restored and the Jews will return there.” You know it’s easy to say that today when we read it, but there were people that read those scriptures and believed that God was going to do it literally even though it looked impossible.
Hal: Yes they were. Beginning at the end of the 1700’s there was a revival actually taking prophecy literally. And that’s when understanding of prophecy really began. But it wasn’t until I did a video called the “Late Great 20th Century” in which I showed that it clearly that it was the 20th century where prophesy came into its own. Where for the first time really great scholars began to study prophesy and take it literally and see it unfolding. But the real key was when Israel became a nation again that’s when everything started to rumble and fit together.
Sid: It’s almost like the time clock really started going really fast the moment Israel became a nation.
Hal: A fast track started with their becoming a nation it really did.
Sid: Alright out of curiosity there seems to be a lot of confusion on this issue, but based on your study of scripture who is a Jew?
Hal: I believe that it’s a term that’s kind of generally thrown around today, but I believe as the Bible understands it it’s the true descendants physically of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. And I would say that a Jew really embraces all of the descendants of the 12 tribes.
Sid: Based on my understanding of scripture for sure. And Israel being a modern day nation and the connection between the USA and Israel how important is that for the USA?
Hal: You know I think personally that one of the reasons we’ve survived some awful mistakes in foreign policy and we’ve been preserved in a miraculous way is because we have been a haven for the Jew. We’ve been a place where they could be protected I think that plus the fact that we’re a missionary base for the world is probably the only reason we still survive.
Sid: Well in your opinion will the United States continue to be a friend of Israel? Will the United States continue to be a safe haven for Jews?
Hal: Well, there’s something very disturbing to me that I saw early in my study of prophecy and that is as you study the spheres of political power that will exist just shortly before the return of Christ. The leader of the west is not the United States or any power like that. The leader of the west would revive, form the Roman Empire. And so I believe that this is something of somehow the United States is going to have to fall.
Sid: Well, you know my spin on that Hal is that we violated every commandment that God has and maybe a few extra. And the only hair that’s holding the blessings of God is our connection with Israel.
Hal: I really believe that. I think that if we turn our back on Israel and there are indications that this is taking place, we turn our back on Israel this thing in the name of being even handed to forget justice I believe the United States will fall.
Sid: I’m sorry we’re out of time.
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