Is there a supernatural dimension, a world beyond the one we know? Is there life after death? Do angels exist? Can our dreams contain messages from Heaven? Can we tap into ancient secrets of the supernatural? Are healing miracles real? Sid Roth has spent over 35 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of It’s Supernatural.
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. Did you know according to the Bible there are books in Heaven that have your entire life, I mean, everything you’re going to do your whole life. It’s your destiny and it’s already recorded. And God’s greatest passion is for you to fulfill the destiny God has for you, and everyone has a destiny, and it’s a good destiny. I don’t care what your age is, my guest has information, revelation, if you will, that will allow you to stop the devil in his tracks of interfering with you fulfilling your destiny. Would you like to find this out? Me, too. Now my guest is Robert Henderson and he’s been a guest before, and he talks about going to the Courts of Heaven. Would you briefly describe that.
ROBERT: I believe that there’s a spiritual dimension called the Courts of Heaven, Daniel 7:10, where it says, “The Court was seated and the books were open.” And I believe it’s called the third realm of prayer, because when Jesus taught us on prayer in Luke 11, he said we should approach God as Father and friend, but then in Luke 18 he added, approach him also as judge. When we approach God as Father or friend, that’s a very deep intimate relationship, but when we come before him as judge that’s a very reverential place.
SID: People are getting healed that never healed before. This revelation is amazing. How did God show it to you?
ROBERT: Well it came out of my own desperation and necessity. Initially, I had a son that was set in depression that was not given to depression. He was there for two years. And I had actually battled in war on the battlefield in prayer, to speak, but all of a sudden the Lord whispered to me and said, “Bring him to my courts.” And when I did that out of the limited understanding that I had at that time, according to Romans 8:26, the Bible ways when we don’t know how to pray he helps us. And so he began to help me and he led me through the process in the Courts of Heaven, and a week and a half later my son calls, and says, “Dad, can I talk to you?” And I said, “Absolutely.” And he says, “I don’t know what happened, but a week and a half ago all the depression left.” And he was completely free, completely free.
SID: You’re hearing this all over the world, really, from that revelation. But this latest one is the one that really gets me. But to understand it, tell me about the books in Heaven.
ROBERT: Yes. According to Daniel 7, Verse 10, the Bible says that the Court is seated, or comes to order, it’s ready to proceed in session and the books are opened. And there’s a lot of books in Heaven. There’s all sorts of books. But one of the main books in Heaven is books of destiny. We find that in Psalms 139:16, where David said, “All my substance,” which I believe is the DNA of who we are, “was written in a book and all my days yet unfashioned, they were all written down in a book before time began.” And what people don’t understand is we have to reach our Divine destiny for God’s ultimate purpose to be done in the earth. When all of us as the body of Christ—
SID: There’s a symphony.
ROBERT: Yes. When we get our destiny he gets his purpose.
SID: Okay. What’s the problem?
ROBERT: The problem is, is that the enemy uses legal things in the spirit realm to stop us from getting our destiny. That’s why Daniel 7:10 says, “The Court was seated and the books are open.” It’s going to take courtroom activity to get what’s in the books fleshed out in real practical life.
SID: What is the major strategy of the devil? What does he use the most?
ROBERT: He uses there basic areas to work against us. First of all, Luke 22:31, it says that, “Jesus said to Peter, ‘Satan has desire to have you.'” Okay, that word “desire”, it literally means he demanded you be put on trial. So Satan had an awareness that of what Peter’s destiny was, what was in his book, and he was going to use a trial or a legal issue in the courts to deny him his right of having that. In other words, he was saying before God, I have evidence that would disqualify Peter from his destiny. And Jesus had to know how to go into the courts, answer those accusations so Peter could have what God had ordained for him to have when he could walk out the destiny God had for him, and he’s done the same thing for all of us.
SID: You explain that there are curses through bloodline. If someone has a curse, give me some examples of what might be a tip-off there’s a curse operating in their life.
ROBERT: Well the first thing I think that a curse does is it creates wrong mindsets. In other words, we think incorrectly about ourselves. Maybe because there’s a curse of poverty in our family line, they think with a poverty mentality. They don’t believe God wants them to prosper or there’s sickness in that bloodline, or there’s depression in that blood line, or there’s anger issues in that bloodline. It fashions and forms the way we see our self. And so one of the first things that a curse does is it creates a mindset, and when that curse is broken or is removed then we’re able to come free of that wrong thinking.
SID: Give me your definition of a curse.
ROBERT: Well I call a curse a spiritual force that will sabotage our future and our success. I mean, I don’t know how many times I lived my life before I discovered this that it would seem like I would be on the brink of a breakthrough only for it not to happen. And I would see this pattern repeat itself over and over, and that’s always a sign of a curse, a repetition of a pattern over and over, and over. Whatever it may be, there is a curse that’s operating in that situation. The Bible says in Proverbs 26:2, “A curse without a cause cannot land.” It says it’s like birds flying around looking for a place to land. So it says a curse has to have a cause. That word “cause,” it would imply that it has found a legal right to operate against this bloodline. And that’s why you see certain types of attitudes, behaviors, sicknesses and depressions, or whatever being passed from generation to generation, never able to come into the destiny ordained by God.
SID: Briefly, you had a curse in your bloodline that if it hadn’t been dealt with the devil would have stopped you from sitting right in that chair today.
ROBERT: Absolutely. I mean, I realized that timidity was a curse. It was in my family line. My dad was very timid, my oldest sister was very timid, and on back. I was so timid that when my wife and I were dating she would have to order for me. She would have to talk to the waiter or waitress for me because I was do bashful and timid and not wanting to do that. And so I realized, I used to think, well that’s just a personality trait. No, that’s a curse. If that hadn’t have broken I would not be able to be a minister, a spokesman.
SID: You would not have achieved your destiny.
ROBERT: That’s right.
SID: When we come back I want to see that these curses, these sins of the bloodline of iniquity will be broken in your life. Be right back.
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