SID: You know something that intrigues me is when you were in prison you were using God so to speak.

SHAWN: Yes.

SID: To get out of prison, jailhouse religion. However, when you were confronted with the Word of God and it described you and you were genuinely born again.

SHAWN: Yes.

SID: No one told you, but you just started repenting.

SHAWN: Yes. Sid, I began to repent for all the different strongholds, all the different generational curses that was upon my life from my father’s side, from my mother’s side, and I genuinely would repent. I would walk up to people as I prayed for them to get saved and literally begin to cry and weep for souls.

SID: That doesn’t sound like you. You were one of those gangsters.

SHAWN: I was a gangster, but now I’m a gangster for God, Sid, and I mean I began to just come up to drug dealers and I would slap drugs out of their hand. I had a lot of zeal, but I had wisdom, so you know, I’m like, Holy Ghost, help me out. I just don’t want to get hurt in the process.

SID: What did you do with all your supply of drugs and things you gained from the drug industry?

SHAWN: Sid, I was into soliciting women. I was into drugs, I was into drug trafficking, guns, and I got rid of all my guns. I gave away my Jaguar. I gave away my jewelry.

SID: You gave away a Jaguar?

SHAWN: I gave away a Jaguar to a local guy that’s in Houston, Texas and I just gave away my van to a family. My jewelry, I got rid of it, my guns. I flushed the drugs down the toilet. I was totally set free, Sid.

SID: You could see the difference. When you opened your mouth, could people see you were a different man?

SHAWN: Sid, even my countenance changed. People literally saw me and I looked like a totally different person. I mean, people couldn’t even recognize me because of the transformation that took place in my life during this experience.

SID: Okay. You go, you’re getting really hungry for God. You go on a three-day dry fast. That means nothing to drink.

SHAWN: Nothing to drink.

SID: I did that. I was so weak when I did that. Did the same thing happen to you?

SHAWN: Yes. I was very weak, Sid. You know, I was so weak, but you know, I was strong at the same time if you kind of understand what I’m saying.

SID: Yes.

SHAWN: So I was laying on my floor doing this three-day dry fast. All of a sudden, Sid, I began to go into this vision and the clouds began to come before me. And when I came out of this vision, I heard a voice say, “Tonight revival is going to break out.” So as soon as my wife walked in the door from coming from the grocery store…

SID: Did you say anything or did she know something was different?

SHAWN: She knew something was different, Sid, because she walked in the door. She woke me out of the vision because she said, “What is going on?” So when she came in the house, a literal visible cloud was all over our living room.

SID: Inside your home?

SHAWN: Inside of my home, Sid. It looked like someone took something off the stove, burnt it and just smoke was everywhere. So when I got up I said, “Dear, what’s wrong?” So when I moved my hand like this my wife flew across the room, Sid. It was crazy. I didn’t even know what was going on. I didn’t have any kind of etiquette for this. I had never seen this in a church. So I didn’t know what was going on. I thought someone was playing a joke on me because it was a literal visible cloud.

SID: So you used to have like a Bible study. People would come over to your house.

SHAWN: Yes.

SID: And when they came over, could any of them see this cloud?

SHAWN: Everyone saw the cloud, Sid. It was so thick that people would walk through the door and they would literally fall forward on their face. Now I’ve heard people fall backwards before, but I had never seen people fall on marble floor, no catcher, Sid, no courtesy drops, but literally fall forward on the floor under the power of God, and be down there for hours. I mean, oil would drip from my ceilings. Lumps would just dissolve off of people’s body and fall on the floor and we would have to sweep it up, Sid. Blind eyes open, deaf ears open, even resurrections took place.

SID: You know, when I first because a believer like you I didn’t have much of a paradigm on anything.

SHAWN: Yes.

SID: But I read the New Testament and I thought that was normal. I was shocked.

SHAWN: Right.

SID: When things that were happening to you it wasn’t normal, it wasn’t happening to everyone else.

SHAWN: Yes. Right, right, right, exactly. Well Sid, this was the thing. I was a new believer, so I was asking the Lord, Lord give me some form of mentorship. So I began to look at television because I didn’t have really no pastor or anyone to kind of show me. So I began to watch your show. I had the manifestation, but I didn’t have the revelation. So when I began to watch the people on your show I began to even accelerate in the things of the Glory realm.

SID: You were called by God.

SHAWN: Yes.

SID: To full time ministry.

SHAWN: Yes.

SID: You were struggling, selling your rap music on the streets.

SHAWN: Yes. Yes I was.

SID: Making nothing and then God tells you to do what?

SHAWN: Well I was in front of a Walmart, Sid, and I was trying to pay my rent, and I only sold three dollars’ worth of CDs that day. So all of a sudden, I heard this voice that I now know is the Holy Spirit, and he said, “Go to the restroom.” So while I’m in the restroom I heard that same voice say, a guy walked in the door, he said, “I want you to pray for James.” So I walk up to the guy. This is a very awkward situation. We’re in a restroom and I said.

SID: That’s very awkward.

SHAWN: That’s very awkward, Sid. So all of a sudden I said, “I’m hearing the Lord saying I need, you need to pray for James.” He said, “James? I am James.” All of a sudden, Sid, I called out his mother’s name.

SID: Excuse me. When he said “I am James,” I bet you were more shocked than him.

SHAWN: Sid, I felt the oil in my dreadlocks. I’m telling you, that’s how glorious it was. It was very electrifying. So all of a sudden I called on his mother’s name. I began to tell him about his situation what’s going on with his fiancé. He fell on his knees right there in the restroom and he gave his life over to Jesus. So we both walked out the bathroom crying and hugging. I bet you that was more of an awkward situation to see two grown men come out of the bathroom crying.

SID: I would like you to pray for people, when we come back, that they have that same hunger for God that you have.

SHAWN: Yes.

SID: You want that hunger, but you don’t have it. But you want it and that’s all God is looking for. I’ll have him pray for you when we come back.

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