Linda:  Well, first off Tom was really sick, he had tumors that were the size of grapefruits all over his body, and he was definitely in the final stages.  He had quoted healing scriptures and fought and battled, he knew that it was not God will for him to die.  But he didn’t seem to hold his ground very well, and on Thanksgiving of 1997 he was exhausted and he fell asleep praying to the Lord, I’ll wake up tomorrow in heaven with you or here on the earth, but I’m just too exhausted to fight any further.  And he fell asleep and he woke up the next day and he felt extremely refreshed and shortly after that he felt God touch him and he knew that he was healed.  And he didn’t show any outward manifestation, he knew that he was healed.  And he also knew another thing, he knew that he had been fighting that battle in his own strength and trying to use his energies to believe the word and to appropriate it.  But now a new change had occurred, he just trusted God and one of the things that God told him to do was to make out a will and put his financial affairs in order and secondly to present himself for chemotherapy.  Well, both of these seemed very strange to him because he said, “If I’m going to be healed, why do I need a will and why do I need chemotherapy?”  But by this point he had learned a very important lesson and that is the difference between natural knowledge and spiritual knowledge.  He said that God showed him that it was like road with a yellow line down the middle.  And the natural line was easy for him because he had studied medicine all of his life and believed in natural law and understood it.  But the spiritual was God’s truth and that in the natural we have fact which are temporary moments in time that can change.  So on the spiritual side we have truth which is permanent and unchanging.  And so at this point he had understood that what is commonsense told him wasn’t necessarily right, he had to do what God had said to do even if it didn’t make any sense.  Well by this time he was so weak, that he couldn’t sit up, he was transported by an ambulance to the local hospital.

Sid:  He looked so horrible that I had difficulty looking at the video footage of seeing his body so deteriorate, as a matter of fact something else I found interesting was his wife covered up the mirror, she didn’t want him to see how bad off he was.

Linda:  That’s right and I mean it was, he had a ragging fever and so she would even in the middle of winter keep all the heat off and the doors open.  Any little smell made him nauseated, it was really, what he suffered was really terrible. And at the end he was told to present himself for chemotherapy and he said, it’s important to realize that it doesn’t have to be invisible for it to be God working.  The doctors had previously told him that chemotherapy would do no good for his type of cancer that it was not susceptible to chemo but nonetheless, and they didn’t want to do it they thought now he’s so weak, that he’s going to die the minute we inject him with this stuff.  But he did it anyway and they hocked him up to the IVs and he said the moment that that chemotherapy hit his body he felt life exploding inside of him.  The tumors melted, they turned mushy and soft and then they liquefied and melted away.  And the transformation that occurred in him just over a few hours was remarkable.  He was weak, he was exhausted but he was healed and he had them, he couldn’t even shave or dress himself, but he had his wife wheel him into the lobby of the hospital so he could tell everyone what God had done for him.

Sid:  Linda, you wrote so many excellent points like that for people to understand so that they could get healed, tell me one of the most important things that you learned from doing the research on this book.

Linda:  Well, it was something that I thought illustrated that you’ve taught for a long time and that is that there is a difference between a healing and a miracle.  A miracle is something that happens suddenly and it’s all at once.  But a healing is something that occurs gradually and people often miss their healing because they don’t get a miracle.  And I think one place that you can really see this is, I know that you have the Dr. John Miller, on Friday to talk about communion.

Sid:  And just a reminder to get the elements for communion so that you cannot just be a spectator you can be part of that broadcast.

Linda:  Because what John teaches is something more and more people are now teaching and understanding, is that as you enter in to the mystery of communion healing occurs.  He has several accounts that he’ll give you of people that have been healed but he recommends that people remember that Jesus body was broken for us.  That he took on himself, the strips that we deserve, he’s like our big brother who took the beating that we deserved for our sins and our failure to do good.  And as you mediate on what Jesus did and you enter into awareness of His suffering on our behalf transformation occurs and it’s really awesome, really awesome.

Sid:  Tell me something else, another nugget.

Linda:  Well.

Sid:   By the way Mishpochah did you realize how valuable these nuggets are?  They are going to change your destiny, your life, your future…

Linda:  There is another thing that I have learned, I must say that I’ve been so blessed by the privilege of just being able to learn more about these people who have had awesome experiences but I’ve been thinking about it as an alphabet.  And A is for action, B is for belief, C is for confession and D is for doubt.  This is what I would say I have learned that before electricity was in common use it was in the world and available, nobody understood it.  It was a mysterious thing, they would see steaks streaks of lightning or static electricity but it has only been about two hundred years that we’ve understood how to harness the power and force of electricity.  The same thing is true of healing, that God’s provision is there for us.  We don’t quite have all the pieces yet, we don’t quite understand how it all fits together.  But anyone who wants to be healed they need to go into the scriptures first and satisfy themselves that healing is there right every much as forgiveness.  That Jesus died for your sin, he died for our infirmity and once you’re really convinced of that these other pieces start to fit together.  And I mentioned the ABCs.  A’s for action, you show you faith by how you act.  So for example, you don’t get in a car thinking that the breaks are going to fail; you have faith in the breaks.  So that’s one aspect.  B is for what you believe; you know does your inner heart tell you that you’re healed?  And if it doesn’t mediate on those verses that God gives you and seek out His plan.  Dale Retz is one who really emphasized the importance of knowing what God’s battle plan is for each situation.  His wife had a terrible stroke the doctor told him that she was going to die, that she would never regain consciousness and Dale proclaimed healing scriptures over her.  She didn’t really get better and he said, I’ve got to go back to the drawing board, I need to find out what God’s plan is.  And so he spent a lot of time just waiting on the Lord trying to hear what God’s plan might be.  And as he understood that he was able to do the things and say the things that he was directed to do.  God told him for example to go up and down the halls of the hospital where his wife was staying and pray for other people to be healed.  And they were getting healed.  He did a tremendous work for the Lord while his wife was there.  And then came the day when she opened her eyes and recognized her family and got up out of bed and today she ministers with him.

Sid:  You know he literally called in a new brain for his wife Pearl, I mean each one of them are such faith builders, the testimonies in this book.  So again, something special will occur on the radio broadcast this Friday, get the elements for communion and get ready for either a miracle or a healing.  A healing is a gradual miracle; a miracle is an instant healing.  You’ll get one or the other, it’s like the game of baseball without three strikes and you’re out.  You can keep swinging, the only way your out is if you quite swinging don’t give up.  The book is called “Supernatural Healing.”   Linda, thank you so much for all the hard work you did to put this book together.  I want to put it in your hands, I want you to start praying for the sick and seeing miracles and I want you to get a miracle…

Sid: Joan Hunter is so excited about the revelation and that’s what it is and that’s what it takes, the revelation of God’s purpose for you in the last days and it’s all involved in Deuteronomy 8:18.  “And you shall remember the Lord your God for it is He who gives you power to get wealth, that He may establish His covenant.”  Joan Hunter it’s all there in that verse, this is what God’s up to right now.

Joan: He is, the word of God says in Malachi that He will, “Prove me now here with your tithes and offerings that I won’t open up the windows of heaven and pour out blessings.”  Now in the book and it will help you walk through this, but there is reasons and hindrances for the blockage of finances coming.

Sid: You were telling me about someone that got a hold of these tapes and listen to it maybe four times and it wasn’t working the way you said it was suppose to work in their life.  Tell me what happened.

Joan: I have, she actually works for me and she says “God, I’m here answering telephone, all these incredible financial testimonies coming in and how come it is not working for me?”  “I’ve listened to this CD again and again; how come I’m not seeing this; how come everyone else seeing this; how come I’m not seeing it?”  And was going on, she was kind of arguing with God you know sharing her heart really with God; and then God in turn says, “You have listened to it, but you haven’t done it.”  Now, and she goes, “Oh, maybe that’s it.”  You know and then she says, “I’m going to start doing this,” she lived in a mobile home.

Sid:  “Faith without works is dead.”

Joan: That’s right, she lived in a mobile home that was really really run down, that she was renting with her son, who was a teenager and she says “Father, help with giving him a father image and things like that.”  Well, within three months from that she met the man of her dreams; they are now married, moved into a beautiful two story home, absolutely incredible.  They recently rented that, moved into a five bedroom home and they’re you know just expanding and remodeling it and on and on and on.  And she got a beautiful diamond ring, she’s got an awesome husband and she’s got you know a bedroom and three to spare.  It’s just awesome what God is doing and he’s an awesome Godly man.  But you know what, whatever is blocking the blessings of God, these teachings with the book in particular will tell you how to break any form of hindrances that’s keeping blank from coming a blessing.  And on these “End Time Economics” I say “If you are having problems getting pregnant,” and I said, “You know or if your children are having problems getting pregnant, I had a daughter that was having problems conceiving over almost three years.”  And so I said, “Father, right now in the Name of Jesus I command all hindrances from keeping that baby” and I said her name under my breath and you can’t hear it, but I said it as I was praying over everybody there.  I said, “I command all those hindrances to go in Jesus name,” my daughter got pregnant four days later.

Sid: You know and that’s the point, God wants you to be the head and not the tail and not for greed, not for the toys of this earth, but for the Kingdom sake.   And tell me about that woman in Nebraska and her home.

Joan: Well, this is she seeded in one of the meetings, she had also seeded in her church and you know and blessed.  And she says, “I want a new home, I want to be able to get out of my apartment and get into a home and I want a home that I can use for Him,” it was a single female, she didn’t necessarily need a large home.  Well, in Lincoln Nebraska they give away one home a year, they build it and they give it away and they give out fifteen keys to fifteen different people; whosever works the key that works that’s who gets the home.  And she seeded and within two weeks she went to that house that was finished and she lives in that house because her key fit.  And you just pull out the key out of a whole bowl of keys and her key fit perfect; she has a beautiful, it was estimated at $250,000 in Lincoln, Nebraska.

Sid: Tell me about the couple that got approved for $25,000 car and what repentance that key and how that worked.

Joan: Oh, that is really powerful, you go in there and it is okay, your budget for is for a $20,000 car.  But the guy says that but you can qualify for $25,000, and he said, but we really budgeted for 20 but you know what we have good credit, we can go for the $25,000 car.  So what they did they got the car for $25,000 and then they got the car, then the payments started coming and they started getting further in debt and further in debt and further in debt and their going what’s going on here.  And the amount that they were going in debt is the difference of the $5,000 loan on the car.  They had walked in disobedience, they had it set in what God wanted them to do, and they went in disobedience and got the car that they were talked into so to speak and they recognized the fact that that was sin and sin of disobedience.  So we had them repent, led them in a prayer, which we do that in the book, repent for disobedience, because disobedience is the deadbolt on the windows of heaven.  Disobedience is the deadbolt on the windows of heaven, and so they repented for their sin of disobedience.  And we said, “Father, you know I led them in the prayer, “We are sorry for what we did, here we are, what should we do now, I thank you, here we have repented, I thank you for helping us either, sell this vehicle, or show us a way that we in turn can pay for the car and keep the car.”  And within two weeks of that and seeding for that car to be completely paid for, they were able to pay it off in just a few months.  It was just supernatural thing it was awesome, there’s power in repentance.

Sid: In addition to repentance some people, they seem to never be able to get ahead, even though they are making more money than they have ever made in their life they’re always in debt, it’s almost as if they have a spirit of poverty.

Joan: That is very true, many times like, we are going to curse the spirit of poverty and the curse of the spirit of poverty is gone.  You know that’s great and I’m a real proponent of that, but unfortunately with that spirit of poverty needs to go a changing of the mind and a renewing of the mind and the getting out of the poverty mindset.  It’s like you know I I placed a call to somebody the other day, I said, “Did you hear what happened at this house?”  And they go “No, what happened?”  And I’m like, “It’s actually pretty exciting,” but they were anticipating it to be really bad.  And I said, “The neighbors are getting a new fence which means that they’re getting a new fence too but they don’t have to pay for it.”  And the mind set is, oh what happened?  You know doom and gloom, oh, what happened?  And we got to get rid of that poverty mindset is like looking…

Sid: Listen, just listening to you for thirty minutes gets rid of every poverty mindset and makes me and makes those listening to you feel like, if Joan can do it, I can do it.

Joan: Well, the word of God applies to Joan, but you know what the word of God applies to you too.  When you understand that God wants to supernaturally get you out of debt, he wants you to bless your socks off and so you can buy new sock; Glory to God, He just wants to bless you.  You know, and I had I think the best absolutely the phenomenal father in the world, you know, Charles Hunter and his desire was to bless me, bless me, bless me and that’s our Father’s heart he would have done anything for me.

Sid: But you know there are a lot of people listening that didn’t have good mothers and fathers like did and they got this image of God that is wrong.

Joan: And my natural Father abandoned me before I was born and then he came back with horrific stuff and so I understand what it is, but God sent my Dad to me, Charles Hunter and to show me what true Godlike love is.  Unconditional love and just as this is a very very powerful teaching, when I went through horrific financial times about twelve years ago I thought I’m going to ask my parents for money to help me.  I you know, I need help financially and I’m not going to make it unless they help me.  And I reached for the phone to ask them to send me some money, because I know that they would have done it in a moment, would have wired it, whatever I needed and as I reached for the phone, God says, “Are you going to trust them or are you going to trust me, it’s time you grew up.”  And they didn’t know what financial struggles I went through until my book came out on how God had healed my finances.  And you know it was like, “Why didn’t you tell us?” I said, “Because God wanted me to learn to completely trust Him.”

Sid: My guest and I haven’t interviewed in a number of years now, is Gary Kah, Kah is spelled, K A H and Gary has a very unique background and as a matter of fact Gary actually had a vow, an oath almost which launched him into being one of the top investigative reporters of the end times.  Now Gary you had a very unique background, your father fled the Nazi’s in I guess as he explained what went on as a young child there were certain things that didn’t make sense to you, explain.

Gary: Yes, I remember around fifth and sixth grade being old enough to really begin comprehending what my parents went through during World War II.  And even though I was born over here in the states after they came over from Europe, when they would get together at family reunions with relatives they would of course talk about their younger days and what transpired during the war.  And my father became a refugee he had to flee from both the Nazi’s and the communists in Croatia because they were converging on their villages there in that area.  And so he and his family and a number of neighbors threw just a few belongings that they could grab on short notice, put them on the backs of wagons, formed a wagon train and ran for their lives and ended up losing everything else that they had.  And they became refugees and so here they were Christians on the run during World War II.  And my mother interestingly who my father met after the war in Southern Germany, she grew up in the hills of Southern Germany in a small farm village and her father, my Grandfather was very outspoken against Hitler to the point where Mom and Grandma feared for his life and prayed for him daily.  And again, Mom grew up in this small village of only about three hundred people and the major had to intervene once on Grandpa’s behalf or else the Gestapo would have hauled him off because of some things that he had said.  And so I thought how could that happen in a country that was known for so long as being Christian?  You know a lot of people forget that the same Germany that became Nazi produced many of the greatest theologians.  And of course the first Bible was printed in Germany and there is such a strong Christian heritage there and it just baffled me how could this happen?  And I remember sitting in my public school room in Kettering, Ohio in sixth grade during a World History Class, I had a Christian teacher that year that was teaching it.  And she was talking about World War II as well and these things that had happened and at that time I prayed to the Lord silently say “I would take a stand for Him if anything like this were to ever happen in America and I would do so regardless of the cost.”  And I remember it as if it were yesterday, I still remember exactly where I was sitting and of course at a young age like that when you pray a prayer like that I suppose you never think the Lord is going to take you up on that and in my case very clearly He did.

Sid: And obviously He’s really using you in an area that it’s unfortunate and in fact I find it hard for me to comprehend why the secular media doesn’t shout from the housetops some of the information that you have obtained.  As a matter of fact, I want to skip to something because to kind of whet the appetite of everyone, and I found this utterly amazing about President Obama has a cousin who ran for the President of Kenya and is one of the leaders of Kenya and that’s not amazing.   But what was amazing is this man is the most radical of radical Moslems I’ve ever heard of, I mean he has burned down hundreds of churches, murdered thousands of Christians.  And you say something on your video that I have never heard anywhere, that somehow there’s an association through President Obama in which he had a million dollars funded into his presidential campaign; tell me about that.

Gary: First of all this gentleman was the leader of the most powerful group of Islamic leaders in Kenya, and when he ran for President a few years back he lost narrowly and as a result a lot of rioting and killing broke out.  That did get some secular media attention, it was around Christmas time in Kenya and there was a lot of bloodshed.

Sid: I know but the connection of that was President Obama’s cousin that did not get media attention.

Gary: Right exactly yeah.  No that did not get out, that’s where they held back and surely they would have had to know that because this was revealed by that individual himself in an interview with BBC news, British Broadcast Corporation.  In fact the headline read, O’dinga said that Obama is his cousin.  And we also found a couple of pictures with Dingus meeting with President Obama and Michelle, this was before President Obama became president; this was during the campaign.

Sid: Even during the campaign how could that have that have been hidden? I mean we would think that there is at least one network that’s telling the truth?  Why isn’t that network at least telling us?

Gary: You know it’s as if there has been a complete media blackout on this.

Sid: How could, all right I’ll mention it, how could FOX News not, why aren’t you knocking on the door of O’Reilly and Beck and all of those other guys?

Gary: You know we’ve had several people who’ve had direct inside tracks allegedly to some of these people with FOX and who have tried to get some of my information into their hands including my book and we haven’t heard back anything.  This has been going on for a couple of years, so far nothing has happened.

Sid: But tell me the connection Gary, I have to understand this for myself, its one thing to have a cousin that’s a no good guy that murders people, but it’s another thing to help this person become president of the country, tell me that connection.

Gary: Okay, let me go back just for a moment if I may.  O’dinga himself personally did not kill those people, but his backers that were so upset that he was not elected that they then went out and torched 800 churches and over a 1,000 Christians were killed in Kenya at that time and so what happened.  So what happened was that things were in such disarray the government of Kenya finally said “Alright, let’s do this.”  So they made this man Prime Minister and Kenya along with another gentleman who holds the President position and so the two of them is ruling jointly right now.  So O’dinga is now in a very powerful position in Kenya as one of the top two leaders in that country.  Now in his interview, with BBC, O’dinga told them is “The World Today” or paper he stated that senator Obama’s father was his maternal uncle.  So Obama’s Father and O’dinga’s mother apparently were brother and sister, that’s the relationship right there.  Now let me move on from there, during the campaign O’dinga said that Mr. Obama had on Monday taken time out of campaigning for the New Hampshire primary to call him twice to express his concern and to say that he’d also be calling Mr. Kobaki, who is the President of Kenya.  And so he acknowledged that President Obama’s campaign he had been in direct contact with him.  And like I’ve said earlier we actually have pictures of them together meeting.  Now regarding the campaign financing it was the organ democratic movement party of which O’dinga was the top figure in that.  A memo that was given to the party from the treasurer which stated on it the various individuals contributing or the organizations contributing to the O’dinga’s campaign it listed an organization called, “Friends of Senator BO.” Standing for “Friends of Barack Obama” as having donated 66,000,000 Kenya shillings which is just under a $1,000,000 which is about $950,000 at the time based on the exchange at that time that was donated by this organization.  And this was an organization backing Obama and his presidential run consisting of many of his closest allies and friends.  And so it would be virtually impossible for him to not have known about that, you know when an organization in his name donates this money to his cousin in Kenya, who ends up then after the campaign being made Prime Minister of that country.  So this is, it really is explosive information, it is very important information.

Sid: If that had been known before the first Presidential campaign I don’t believe President Obama would have been President.

Gary: I agree with you that this would have been enough to tip the scales in direction, but it shows how closely is allied that at least in this case with this radical Islam concerning the fact that O’dinga was and still the top radical Islamic leader in Kenya.

Sid: Now, Gary your education also intrigues me, when you went to college, your major was in International Marketing and Economics.  You had three different majors actually, you graduated with top honors.  And they you became the Europe and Middle East Trade specialist for the State of Indiana, you traveled through some thirty different countries.  Did you at that time have any thought that you were being prepared to be literally God’s man to shout from the roof tops what’s going on?

Gary: Well, you know I remember even in the first year on my jobs, some of the opportunities that I had at such a young age, it was just almost mind boggling I had to pinch myself to see if this was really happening.  For example, only two months into the job, I was called upon to give the speech when a delegation of political leaders from Germany came here to visit Indiana.  And I remember the Governor of Indiana being there and the Lieutenant Governor, their wives and all these top leaders from Germany.  One of them was from the leader of the CDU Party at the time and here I was given this opportunity to address them and many things came out of that.  And then I lead a trade mission to seven different countries including Israel.

Sid: I’ll tell you what; let’s hold that thought because we’re out of time.

Dennis: Well, first of all I don’t consider myself a song writer so that should tell your listeners something right there.  I consider myself a receiver and what I mean by that is my goal and what has kept me honestly throughout all the years of my life is that intimacy with Jesus in knowing that apart from Him I have nothing; apart from Him I am nothing.  So if I walk in relationship with Him then I’m going to be listening for what He has to say for me. In fact Psalm 45:1 says “My tongue is the pen of a ready writer,” and I address my verses to the King.  So my reasoning with that is if the Lord has gifted me to receive in the area of music then I better be walking with Him in such a way that I listen for Him.  And what’s so awesome about that into the walk with the Lord for me in my particular giftings is that His word says in several places that specifically Psalm 32:7 that “He is our hiding place and he surrounds us with songs of deliverance.” And Zephaniah 3:17 says, “The Lord Your God is in Your Midst and He’s a victorious Warrior and the verse ends by say that He rejoices over you with singing.”  So within a sense I sing to Him but then because I’m in a relationship with Him I don’t do all the talking, I listen for what He’s singing over me.  And if I’m praying, more often than not I sing my prayers to Him and a lot of times when I’m in intercession with other people, for other people I will sing, you know what is that they need; well I’m going to sing that to the Lord.  And then I’ll say “Okay, Lord what do they need to hear from you; what is the song of deliverance for them and their situation?  Please let me hear that.”  And that’s in a nutshell what I do and I think that’s kept me from that mentality of thinking I have to perform for anything.  I never have a set time to sit down and write, I just say okay Lord, I’m ready whenever You are just like Psalm 45:1 says, I want to be ready.  So if I’m on an airplane I have something to write music on; if I’m riding my horse; I have something with me to write that song.

Sid: But you know something, even as you’re sharing with me Dennis, there is such a strong presence on your spoken word.  You know rather than talk about it; I want them to hear a little bit.  Tell me about the song that you received from heaven; and that’s what he’s saying if you didn’t catch it.  The song he received from heaven called, “Hearing Your Presence.”  What’s that about?

Dennis: Well, we always say, “Look come into the Lord’s presence.”  But my belief is, I’m being sincere here, I don’t believe, I ever leave His presence.  The reality is He is with me wherever I am so that stand to reason then I’m either refusing to acknowledge His presence or I forget that He’s there.  Well, I never leave His presence and David said it like this in Psalm 139; “Where can I go from Your presence, Lord? If I go to the highest mountain, you are there, if I go to the most remote place on earth even there your hand can reach me.”  So that’s the reality of the song and what I was meditating on the day I receive it.  It was just the fact that man, there’s no place I can go and that gives me a lot of hope.  There is hope knowing that I am never, ever alone.

Sid: And so many people that just sit under the anointing of this music get set free from emotional problems, from physical problems.  And in fact one of our staff when they heard your music they said, the scripture that came of them is “The anointing destroys the yoke.”  Any yoke on anyone can’t stand against this anointing.  Let’s hear the song, “Here in Your Presence.”

Dennis song excerpt (5:06 – 8:09

Sid: I don’t know about you but the presence of God is so thick on Dennis’s words and Dennis’s music because if does come from heaven.  But I believe Dennis that one reason that God uses you so much is you love Him so much.  And one reason that you love Him so much is He set you free from so much.  When you were five years old, just an innocent thing; a man exposed himself a man exposed himself in a restroom.  You had problems with receiving the love your parents had in particular your father and you went the route of homosexuality.  Back then, you’re a Christian, you love the Lord, you even as a young boy you were gifted in music and I believe my staff told me that when you were nine years of age you started playing piano in church.  Did you have a problem with knowing what the word had to say and knowing the way you were and knowing that Jesus was real?

Dennis: Oh, for sure, that was the major conflict of my life and one of the main major reasons I never got any help was that the enemy was always there whispering, that if anyone ever finds out what you’re really like you are going to be humiliated; you are going to be rejected; you are going to be exposed and your life is going to be ruined.  So I played the outer games where I was Mr. Goody two shoes on the outside but I was miserably dying on the inside.  Because here’s the deal, when I was about ten or eleven years old I already knew what my struggle was; I had already failed sexually with other boys by that time believe it or not and I’m not proud of that I am very ashamed of that.  But the reality is I also overheard some of the men who taught me about God from the time I was a little boy all the way through high school one day they were discussing what they thought of homosexuals and I realized that they’re talking about me and they just don’t know it.  And these, when you’re ten years old and you hear that and these are the men that taught you about God, guess what you think God thinks of you.  I thought that God hated me.

Sid: Well, I have some people that are friends that are still in the gay lifestyle and they have talked themselves in theologically that God over looks that.  Did you go that route?

Dennis: No, because…

Sid: You knew.

Dennis: I knew.  Sin is sin and regardless of what labels we put on it.  Sure, so I had to get to that place in my life where I just, had pretty much abandoned all hope; I really did feel hopeless all of my grown up years all the way through college I felt utterly hopeless.  I thought that there is no way.  And then when I was a senior in college I finally had a mentor who was investing himself in my life and just pouring himself into me; praying for me; just really taking care of my emotional needs and there came to a point that I practiced John 8:32 “You’ll know the truth and the truth will set you free.”  First step of truth is always our own honesty, so I got honest with him and then I felt this such a flood of relief and hope flood in just by sharing it with one other person that that was shattered in an instant because then my mentor made a sexual advance on me.  And that’s when I honestly feel; I understand hopeless now from that point; I actually went at that point went and tried to take my own life.  And the only problem with…

Sid: I am beginning to see how God’s using you; you were just totally broken vessel saying take all of me.  I don’t want any of me; but we are getting a little bit ahead of our story.  But I’ll tell you that there hope in any situation that you have.

Cindy: I was born in Bermuda, a British colony.

Sid: Aha, okay just briefly, because of those that aren’t familiar with you; you were raised in a tough situation in a home that was in poverty.  And your father abandoned your mother when you were two and your mom had seven children.  It was a pretty tough upbringing but the thing that encourages me is you had a mother that really loved God and really believed in God.  Did this make a bid difference in your life?

Cindy: It made all the difference, I believed that it affected how she parented us and to tell you the truth I didn’t know that I was poor until I grew up; because she was not a negative person.  And I think even before I was a believer I was trained in faith and I thank my mother for that; she’s the first person that demonstrated faith.

Sid: And I find it also interesting that the before you were even born again you had a reoccurring dream about what you’d be doing in the future.  What was that dream?

Cindy: The dream was me being in a bus and I would be in the back of the bus; I was young; back of the bus driving of being driven.  And the bus driver would die at the wheel and no one knew how to drive this bus.  I was young and I ran all the way from the back of the bus and just before the bus along with all the passengers would go over a ravine I would take the wheel and drive people to safety before we crashed.  And I dreamed this dream over and over and over until the day I gave my heart to the Lord.   And the second dream had to do with me being going home and it was a dark passage way and it was always this huge foot that would try to crush me.  And inevitably I would try to run under a rock and the person or this foot could not find me because I was protected.  And then the light would shine and this creature or being would disappear and I believe the two dreams the first one with the bus was my deliverance ministry.  And the second one had to do with the supernatural; the Rock being Christ Jesus that would hide me.  And then the light would shine and bring deliverance and protection from these powers of darkness.

Sid: Tell me about the time you were seventeen years of age and you were in the kitchen of the church and you got born from above.

Cindy: Yes, I got filled with the Spirit; there was nobody around and I was filled with the Holy Spirit.  I just heard the Lord say, “Lift your hands and as I lift my hands the Holy Spirit came upon me.”  And again, there was nobody around and I had an experience with the Lord right there in the kitchen.

Sid: Was there more to it than that when the Holy Spirit came on you, I’m curious?

Cindy: When the Holy Spirit came on me?  Well let me back up a little bit, my mother of course sent us to church so I grew up Methodist.  And then every Ash Wednesday I went to the Anglican Church and I loved the Lord, but I did not know anything about salvation and giving my heart to the Lord.  And after on a New Year’s weekend I went to the church and I felt prompted to go to the altar and I knelt down and I head God speak to me and say “Give Me your heart.”  And that’s when I got saved, I was seventeen years old.  I was looking for a place to be discipled and I went to another church, I joined another church and they were excellent in discipling, but they didn’t believe that women could preach and they didn’t believe in being baptized with the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues.  And so I was being discipled, an excellent church, however I believe that this dream was about, the reoccurring dream was about to come to pass.  And I went into the kitchen one afternoon just to get water and this is in the church and this is where I had an experience and an encounter with God.  And He filled me with the Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues and there my gift of prophecy was activated and it was from that point that God gave me supernatural insight into the lives of people.  And I was able to see potential and the future of people.

Sid: That’s got to be such a marvelous gift; you can help people so much with that!

Cindy: It is because so many people are looking for meaning and purpose so many and I believe that one of the greatest gifts that we can give to another man is to give them hope in the future; for their future.  And God said, “That I have a wonderful plan for you.” out of the book of Jeremiah 29:11” and He says, “These plans are good to give you a future hope.”  And this is what the world is missing; the world is missing a hope in the future.

Sid: We were discussing that before we went on the air about the future of America and I can’t wait to get this material that you’ve written and the two CDs and hardback book “Commanding Your Morning” into their hands.  Because what a revelation that’s going to transform their life, but I must ask you one more thing out or my own curiosity.  And that is you had a dream about one of my favorite people with miracle ministries, Katherine Kulman; tell me about that.

Cindy: I was preparing to minister one night and as I was preparing I had a vision and in the vision I felt like I was transported ahead in time.  And one of the reasons why I feel like I was transported is because when I came out of this vision about two hours had passed and I could not account for these two hours.  And then I had started to dress, I had finished dressing and I don’t recall dressing at all.  But I was transported somewhere in time and I was on a stage and as I was on the stage and there were thousands of people ahead of me, hundreds of pastors behind me and I raised my hand and a costume of Kathryn Kulman came upon me.

Sid: That’s a mantle; a mantle of Kathryn Kulman came upon you in this dream.

Cindy: Yes, it was a vision.

Sid: In this vision.

Cindy: Yes.

Sid: Have you seen, as you’ve ministered that type of ministry going on in your life because I’ve seen Kathryn Kulman?  In fact when I was a baby believer in the Messiah, being Jewish I hadn’t even read the Bible, she found out about me and I was a guest on two of her television programs.  And as far as I’m concerned I have not seen a ministry to that magnitude since hers.  What have you seen in your ministry that is similar?

Cindy: I haven’t seen anyone like hers as well, but I can give you one example in Atlanta, Georgia.  We were in the Dome, maybe 40,000 people or so and as I stood on the stage there was a lot of pastors and ministers behind me similar to the dream.  And the Lord told me raise your hands and walk across the stage.  And as I raised my hand and walked across my stage there was no contact with anybody the whole place from front to back, about 40,000 people were slain the Holy Spirit.

Sid: Oh, I wish I had been there!  Did they get that on tape?

Cindy: It’s on YouTube.

Sid: Oh wonderful, I’m going to take a look at that right after the show because I have seen like Reinhardt Bonke, I’ve seen a little of that, but nothing like what you just described.  I’ve got to see that.  Tell me why someone should want your book, “Commanding Your Morning” and your two CDs “Commanding Your Morning?”

Cindy: It’s amazing because most people feel as if they have no control over what’s happening to them.  And a lot of people are having a Job experience where things seemingly are going wrong without rhythm without reason.  But Job interviewed God and he asked God this question.  “Why are these things happening to me?”  And in the book of Job 38:12 God answers and says, “Have you commanded your morning since thy days and caused the dayspring to know his place that it might take hold of the ends of the earth and the wicked might be shaken out of it.”  And it’s interesting because life does not have to just happen to us there’s power in the spoken word.  And I believe that we can down load success and prosperity into our days the night before.  And this is why commanding the morning is important; when you go back to book of Genesis “God was able to say, “Let there be light and there was light.”   And the book of Hebrew says that “By faith we understand the worlds were framed by the Word of God.”

Sid: Listen, you have such supernatural prayers in this book that people can state in the morning or the evening before that will change their life.  As a matter of fact there are people listening to us right now, you’re missing your compete destiny.  You know that, you’re not telling anyone, but you’re missing that and until you decide to reverse the perpetual cycle of disorder in your life you’re going to continue to experience the same cycles of defeat in failure…

Craig: Sid, what I found was that many women don’t understand what does the Bible mean when the Apostle Paul says you’re to respect your husband.  She says, “Well, I respect him, you know I think he’s a nice guy and all that, but here’s what I’ve discovered respect really means, what every husband wants.  He wants to be accepted, he wants to be admired, he wants to be appreciated and I boil it down to a real simple thing; rather than being criticized for what he isn’t doing to meet her needs, he want to hear a message that says to him you’re a good husband.  What I find that many wives do to their husbands without realizing it, they are continuing sending their husband a message bad, bad husband you didn’t do this right, you didn’t do that right.  How come you pray for everybody else, you never pray for our family?  How come you’re always there for everybody else, you’re never there for us.  How come you did this wrong, you did that wrong, when are you going to rise up and be the spiritual head of our house and lead this family in prayer and all that kind of thing coming from a wife to husband feel I must be a miserable failure in her sight.  The other thing that I found was that wives don’t realize how sensitive the heart of husband is because he looks strong and yet on the inside she can deeply wound him through criticism and through judgment and through conveying to him that everything he does, or many things that he does are wrong.  You know I’m thinking that one of the biggest difficulties that wives have is to believe that their husband many, many times wound them without realizing it.  The thing that I’ve found is that is a deception for most wives.

Sid: They think that it’s intentional.

Craig: They do, that is exactly what they think, they think that he did that on purpose and when she confronts him and says “You hurt me, you did that, you took the kids to the State Fair, we were talking about, on purpose on the weekend when I was out of town just to hurt me. Well no, that’s not true; He didn’t even realize that, he wasn’t trying to do that.  Here’s the biggest thing that wives don’t realize; their husbands are not intentionally trying to hurt them.  And when a husband says, I don’t know I did anything wrong, I wasn’t trying to hurt you.  Most wives don’t believe them.  Let me give you this example Sid, it would be like this, suppose a wife was coming out of the grocery store with her hands full of groceries, full of bags of groceries and as she stepped out of the store a man walking down the sidewalk runs right into her, knocks those groceries out of her hands and the groceries are flying everywhere, and she angrily picking up those groceries and she looks up at him and says, “What’s wrong with you, why don’t  watch where you’re going, are you blind or something?”  And the man says, oh, I’m so sorry, yes as a matter of fact, I am blind, normally I go out with my seeing eye dog who helps me but unfortunately he was run over by a car yesterday and this is the first day to try to make it on my own and I guess I’m not doing too well, I’m so sorry.  And the woman stands up and had an immediate paradyne shift and change of heart and she says to him, “Oh had no idea I’m so sorry, where are you trying to go, may I help you?”  Now what changed the situation didn’t change, it was exactly the same; what changed was her understand of motive.  She understood that this man literally was blind and did not intentionally knock the groceries out of her hand, as opposed to this man is self consumed, unconcerned about anything else and just ran into me because he’s careless.  So that’s a totally different paradyne what I want most wives to know is this, you have married a blind man, please help the blind man don’t judge him, don’t condemn him.  I’ve found that more that 90% of the time when your husband offends you, wounds you, makes you feel that he doesn’t love you, doesn’t care about you it’s not intentional, it’s that he’s blind.  He honestly didn’t see it, he didn’t know it and when you confront him with it, expecting him to take responsibility and say, “Oh, you’re right and I’m so sorry please forgive me; the reason he doesn’t is he honestly can’t see it.”  And if you can get that in your heart as a wife, so that your motive and intent becomes, let me help him, rather than let me judge him, condemn him, and feel like he doesn’t care about me.  The reason he hurt you is not because he doesn’t care about you, the reason he hurt you is because he didn’t see it, he didn’t know it.  And if you can allow that paradyne shift to take place in your heart as a wife so that you begin to understand his heart.  He really does love me; he really does care about me; if you can do that as a wife that is a simple natural step that you can take that will begin to supernaturally change your marriage.  What I mean by that is what you can do today, is when your husband comes home, or when you see him ask him that question; “Have I made you feel like you don’t do anything right in my sight; have I made you feel judged and criticized, and then just listen to his heart?  If he says yes, ask him to forgive you and tell him you love him, you admire him.  Another thing that I’ve found Sid, one other thing is that husbands work very, very hard.  They put up with a lot at work sometimes a mean boss, sometimes mean customers, sometimes many pressures and difficulties at work.  The reason they do that is because they love their family; because they love their wife, they love their children and there’s one word that convey word that conveys great value to a husband that many husband’s never hear from their wife.  And that word is simply this, thank you.  Thank you for all the pressure there, thank you for all you put up with at work, I know you do that because you love me, you love our family, I so admire you, thank you for working so hard for us, appreciate you, I admire you, you’re my husband, you’re a gift from God.  And you know if you will do that tonight for your husband it will begin to change something instantaneously in your relationship.  He will begin to open his heart back up again, that is the one thing that husbands are waiting to hear is that simple word from a wife, thank you, I appreciate you.  That is what we perceive as respect, that’s what Paul is talking about in Ephesians Chapter 5 and I find that most wives are not seeing that or totally oblivious to that and they think that if I just tell them all the things that he did wrong that he’ll change.  And what does is convey a relational message to the husband that you’re a failure in my sight that deeply wounds him and he will close up and withdraw.  So that’s a critical thing.  On the other side, I wound my wife many times without realizing it and if I will stop and ask her how I’ve made her feel, and once I understand that and apologize even though I don’t think I was wrong I may not have been wrong on a topical issue but if I was wrong in the way I communicated to her in making her feel valueless and if I repent and take responsibility for that and ask her to forgive me, again it will supernaturally release the Holy Spirit to begin to heal the spirit of that marriage.

Sid: I can tell you when I read that in your book it just hit me so hard it’s so right and I just never looked at it that way, I looked at black, you know I’m a prophetic type person, everything is black and white and there is no room for that second level that unseen level.

Craig: Exactly and many times, I can be right on the topic level, I don’t think the man that took the kids to the State Fair, he wasn’t wrong, he was right to take his kids to the State Fair but what he was wrong in was not understanding what happened to his wife in being willing to deal with her feelings and convey value and love to her.  And that’s what Apostle Paul says in Ephesians 5:32 & 33 is that he is to love her and she is to respect him and again if we don’t know what that means then we are very busy doing exactly the opposite and not realizing that we are doing it and doing damage to the spirit of our marriage, wounding each other and wondering why we aren’t having a very pleasant experience.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I want to read a little to you from our most recent newsletter. “Is it possible that there exists an ancient mystery in which is hidden the secret of America’s future? Is it possible this mystery lies behind everything, from 9/11 to the war in Iraq, to the American housing bubble, and it’s bursting to the crash of Wall Street and the global economy, to the great recession, and much more, even to the President of the United States?” Now there’s a Messianic Jewish rabbi who lives right outside of New York City that went to the grounds of 9/11 after that horrific event occurred. And let me read you a quote by him. “As I was standing at the edge of Ground Zero, I came across the first puzzle piece of an ancient biblical mystery and a prophetic message known as “The Harbinger” that concerns the future of America.” I have Rabbi Jonathan Cahn here. And Jonathan, you use a word, and I want to understand what you mean by it, “harbinger”. What do you mean?

JONATHAN: A harbinger is a sign, an omen, or a foreshadow of something that is yet to come. It can be a harbinger of something good, usually a harbinger of something that you take warning in, a harbinger of judgment in this case. That’s exactly what it is.

SID: And the thing that is so stunning is that point by point, the Holy Spirit revealed to Jonathan that the pattern that happened to Israel is happening to the United States of America. And he found nine harbingers, nine warning signs. Jonathan, how important is this revelation at this moment in history?

JONATHAN: I think it couldn’t be more important because God gives signs to a nation warning it of judgment. And God is calling America. America is in danger by these harbingers. It’s a warning. It’s to save the nation. But it’s a sign that we are in a very dangerous period.

SID: Briefly, tell me what happened to Israel at the time of this prophecy? It’s Isaiah 9:10.

JONATHAN: Yes. That’s going to be the key, Isaiah 9:10 is the key of the harbingers. Ancient Israel was founded by God. It was blessed by God, but it turned away. It rebelled against Him. It drove Him out of its life. And what happened is God sent prophets to them and he called them, warned them. Finally, He did something to shake them up as a wake-up call, and He withdrew their hedge of national protection. He lifted it up. It was temporary, but He lifted it up, that an enemy struck the land and inflicted damage, traumatized the nation. But it was temporary. It was limited. They withdrew and then there was normalcy. It was to wake them up, a wake-up call. But they did not wake up. They chose to keep defying God. Instead of repenting, turning back to God, they became even more defiant and they made a vow, and that vow is Isaiah 9:10. They said this: “The bricks have fallen, but we will rebuild with hune stone. The sycamores have been cut down, but we will plant cedars in their place.” And what that meant was we’re not going to be humbled. We’re not going to turn back. We’re going to continue away from God. In fact, we’re going to come back even stronger. We’re going to replace weaker things with stronger things.

SID: It’s like a defiant spirit.

JONATHAN: Exactly. You said it. The commentaries on this always use that same word. They say, “They breathed the spirit of defiance.” Exactly!

SID: Okay. But that was ancient Israel. And warning after warning, I can almost feel God’s heart saying, “I do not want to see you destroyed. You’re my first-born. Please heed the warnings.” But Jonathan, why did you feel that this was a warning, a prototype, if you will, for the United States of America?

JONATHAN: Ancient Israel did not turn and they were destroyed. So now, we have America. America was also founded on God’s Word. It was founded to fulfill His purpose. America has also turned, been turning and turning more and more rapidly away from God and His ways. God in His mercy calls out to a nation, and if it doesn’t respond, the callings get more severe. What happened now is the first harbinger, or the first thing that happened was the breach, was that lifting up of the national security, allowing an enemy to strike the land, a wake-up call.

SID: You’re talking about 9/11.

JONATHAN: Now, yes. That was for ancient Israel. Now, God did it with America. That happened exactly on September 11, 2001. The national defense of America, the hedge was lifted up. He allowed an enemy to strike. Same way, limited scope, limited time, traumatized the nation, a wake-up call. 9/11 was an alarm seeking to save America from the road it’s going on.

SID: Okay. So the progressive judgments were nine harbingers, nine warnings. Let’s talk about one: the Gazette Stone.

JONATHAN: Okay. This is what happened. And you look at the key of Isaiah 9:10. It says, “The bricks have fallen, but we will replace them with hune stone In Hebrew it’s the word “gazette”. Gazette means “cut, quarried, taken out of mountain rock”. It’s a strong thing. They made it into a big rectangular mass of stone. What they were saying is there was a destruction, and it was clay bricks, but we’re going to come back stronger as a nation. So we’re going to take a stronger thing. We’re going build higher and bigger, and better. So what they did is they took these gazette stones. They went to the quarries in the mountains, cut it out, brought it back to the ground of destruction where the bricks had fallen, and there they vowed, “With this, we’re going to rebuild a nation;” a sign of defiance.

SID: Okay. That’s Israel. What about America?

JONATHAN: Well that’s the thing. This is what happened. After 9/11, in New York, they went to the mountains. They quarried out a rock, a 20-ton rectangular block. According to the harbinger, it has to be brought back to the ground of destruction. They bring it to New York City, bring it to Ground Zero; place it on the pavement of Ground Zero. They have a ceremony around the stone. They have leaders there: governor of New York, governor of New Jersey, the mayor. They pronounce vows of defiance over the stone. They say, “This stone of America is going to come back stronger than ever. We’re going to rebuild.” In fact, you said it before, the spirit of defiance. That’s what the commentaries say about this. The governor of New York actually says, “We are the heirs of the spirit of defiance and we lay this stone.”

SID: And he used the word “defiant”?

JONATHAN: Not just defiant. He used the words “spirit of defiance.” We said, “We are the spirit of defiance.” You see this over and over again.

SID: If there was just one parallel between Israel, and what happened to them and their eventual destruction and one parallel with the United States, we might say, so what. But there are nine harbingers with progressive judgments. This may be, no, this is the most important prophetic show you will ever see. We’ll be back right after this word.

Ron: The angelic visitation is here, I feel like there are two angels with me right now.  One is an angel of joy here right now and this angel goes to the pulpit with me every Sunday and stands at my right and he has been so manifestly powerful even in the old building.  He came to the new building with us and people that step into that territory will feel like laughing; which is another manifestation that frightens people is when joy comes.  I have felt that this Joy angel is here and I know that this angel called Noble is, we talked about it on an earlier program has promised to give me favor.  And I believe he’s going to give you favor and favor with people that are listening that the Holy Spirit is going to move and motivate them to help you get the word out; I just believe they are here that favor has come.  And you know when you get to the Book of Revelation angelic activity, you’ve got seven angels of churches, you’ve got seven angels throwing out bowls and blowing trumpets, angels are preaching everlasting gospel.  There is, we are experiencing already an increase in angelic activity.

Sid: Why are we experiencing this increase in angelic activity?

Ron: I think what you said in yesterday’s program, “Man is coming to end of himself.” we cannot, the problems cannot be solved.  It’s like Jesus said in Luke 21, “Man’s heart failing from fear from the things coming on the earth for the powers of heaven will be shaken.”  And I think that people today are again believing in the supernatural, that’s why your programs so important and they need to know the truth about the supernatural so that they are not deceived.  And we know that we can’t do what we need to do, we can’t have what we need to have, we can’t go where we need to go without the supernatural power of God through the Holy Spirit and through the fort the host which He has provided.  He said in Hebrews 1:14 that He sent those angels that they might serve all of us who are heirs of salvation.  And so we need to get these angels out of the unemployment line and back out there with us.

Sid: Now the Bible also says that many of us entertain angels unawares.  Well, do you believe that there are many occasions that people have angelic help and they aren’t even aware of it?

Ron: Yes and when I began to preach this in our church and teach it to our people which I have been doing; just finished.  We have had hundreds of people who have now realized that that person that they met on the job; or that person that they thought helped them was an angel.  Let me give you one example; Coach Mike Duboist, who coaches Mill Saps College in Jackson, Mississippi.  Coach Duboist and his wife years ago lived in Chattanooga and they moved to Hattiesburg, Mississippi were unpacking there house when they heard a knock at the door.  Went to the door and their two year old child was standing there with a radiant looking woman.  The child had never before climbed out of its bed; he climbed went out the back door and was found standing in the middle of an intersection of cars.  Two years old, the child had taken his big wheel maybe two or three years old or somewhere in that range.  This woman brought the child back and was standing at the door and Ms Duboist got the child in, she was weeping she turned around, she turned back around the woman vanished; she never saw her again, never met her again.  It was their first day, her first day in Hattiesburg; moving in to the house the football team there had provided for them.  And it was years before she realized that God had manifested himself an angel and as a woman I think so the child wouldn’t be frightened; and to bring that child home.  Yes Sir, I believe that angels unawares.

Sid: And but also there’s so much supernatural protection, your first experience with an angel resulted in supernatural experience, explain that.

Ron: Yes sir, I was driving my 56 Ford to fast (chuckle) toward Newton, Mississippi to Clark College where I went for a year before I went to Sanford University.  And as I was driving in that direction I saw a bridge abutment in front of me and a car passed another car and ran me off the road toward that bridge abutment.  And I just kind of closed my eyes turned the car towards the bridge because I didn’t want to hit the other car.  And when I opened my eyes I was off the road, but I pulled back on the road past the bridge and never hit the bridge; I believe and angel lifted my car.  The very same year I was coming home from the same school riding with a friend in a brand new Pontiac GTO and a trailer truck came over in our lane and ran us off the road and we did three flips and I felt like somebody like somebody had thrown a mattress of protection around me; while the man driving the car was injured I walked away from a total out wreck without a scratch or even a piece of torn clothes.  I didn’t realize back then that God was supernaturally protecting me to prepare me for what he wanted me to do.

Sid: You talk about a vicious chow dog that had some supernatural protection of someone that you knew.

Ron: Yeah, Ginny Greecemere in our church and Jenny’s husband is president of a huge appliance corporation, these are solid sharp people.  She use to have a direct sales business like woman have you know when she was delivering product to the door of a friend that had bought from her.  The friend warned her had said, don’t come in the backyard, because our Chow, were going to have to get rid of him because he’s biting, he’s vicious, we don’t know what’s wrong with him.  So Ginny said, “Don’t worry I’ll put it on the front porch,” so Ginny went up the front porch, left the product, when she turned the Chow was standing on the sidewalk between the…

Sid: This is the Chow dog.

Ron: A Chow dog growling, snarling threatening her and she said, she said right then, she said, “Lord send an angel right now and I command that angel to move that dog out of my way and put him back in the backyard.”  Immediately, Ginny saw that dog’s head pushed down to the ground, him turned away from her, pushed towards the fence and like he was being drugged out of her way; she walked to her car and that dog never whimpered again.  She knows that Psalm 91 came true, “He’ll give His angels charge over you, less you stump your toe, less you kick your foot against a stone.”  That angel came, but I want to tell you she had to speak to that angel, that angel moves out when the word of God is voiced, that’s what Psalms says.  We’ve got to speak to activate that angel.  The angels can’t read your mind, you’ve got to speak and ask their assistance; they’re not going to move in on you.  When you come to that encounter ask the Holy Spirit to help you and say, “Angels, get out there and help.”  And I challenge everyone listening today to try this, to do it.

Sid: Well, in your heart of hearts isn’t this the reason you wrote the book?

Ron: Yes Sir, the truth is if you ask Strang, Strang picked up a series of my teaching on this and asked me to do it.  I didn’t want to do it; I just…it was one of those things that it kind of my secrets and the things that God had done in my life and I didn’t want everybody to know about it and that was wrong.  And now I know that people need this help and that we’ve got to release it out there.  You know that you ask me about “The Angel Unawares” here’s something very important.  That’s in the context of ministers, visiting and when you read through the whole context of that passage.  You know, Benny Hinn used our building for his partner conference last year and as usual in this area there were those that were criticizing him.  And Holy Spirit told me that angel unawares is not only those encounters that we have but say Sid Roth came to Abba House to preach and someone disrespected you.  The angels that came with you would be insulted and angelic activity be interrupted on that person’s behalf.  It’s very important to know that; don’t be speaking against the man of God or the woman of God who are out there no matter what you’ve heard.  Because they come with a company of angels with them and you don’t want to insult those angels because those angels have come to press their ministry and to help the community that they’ve come to.  That something that you’ve never heard around that text before but I think in context it’s true.

Sid: I think that that’s very important, but it’s in line with the greatest is love.  The greatest gift so it’s in line with walking in love in the last days and what you’re saying is there is a tie in between walking in love and angelic activity.

Ron: Exactly is and when we becoming loving and serving and welcoming angels serve that way.  The angelic activity increases and when we receive other people that’s why the idea of receiving angels unawares.  If you receive another human being that God is touching or that God has a need the angelic activity around them combines with what’s going on in your life to increase the strength that’s around you.  You know sometimes we don’t understand how an angelic favor can just be released on us in a moment. I was just out a little place called The Rush to workout and I was over there and I was going to get a protein shake on my way out and I could tell the girl was harried and busy but I wanted that shake and I said, “Lord I need some angelic help here she is too busy to do this and well, she is going to be rude and help me Lord and angels come and help.”  And so I told her what I wanted and she said, “Well, okay and she went over to mix it and the Lord said, “Give her double the money, give her a tip equal to the cost of that shake.”  So I did, I gave her that extra, I said, “I want you to have this.”  She looked up at me and said, “Well, I want to give you an extra large instead of a small and she began to smile and I said, “Are you a Christian?” and she said, “Yes, but I haven’t had a good day.”  I said, “Well, you need to know that your Joy Angel is here and she laughed out loud and I walked out the door with that milkshake; double size in my hand.”

Sid: It plain doesn’t matter what’s going to happened to the world economy; what’s going to happen with terrorism; what’s going to happen with disease as long as you know how to activate the angels and stand on the word of God.  No weapon formed against you will prosper…

Joan: He started praying everybody and what was really neat was that he got home from the service and the daughter said, “Where have you been?  And he said, “Well, I’ve been at a healing school this lady has come in and taught us how to pray for the sick.”  And so any way she had come in and she had a neck problem and got healed, it was awesome and you know, he prayed for her.  And she goes, “Well, can you go see my friend’s mother who is dying of stage four cancer and not expected to live in the next week or two?”  And he goes, “Well, sure,”  so he goes over and he takes his Bible and he takes his handbook over there and goes to the lady, has to go in the back room; she is confined to bed.

Sid: People actually take your handbook because you tell them step by step whatever the condition, how to pray for someone.

Joan: That’s right and I mean Pastor’s have it in their pulpit, on their desk and in their car and they take it on hospital visits and everything.  And so goes in there and sees this lady and looks up the cancer in the book and prays over her, and he had been in the healing ministry, but then nothing was happening.  And so he goes, “Well I know I’m suppose to speak in tongues and I know that I’m suppose to cry, I know that I’m supposed to read the word of God, but you know it doesn’t say that in the book.”  Now I believe in all of those, but you don’t have to do it when you’re at the grocery store praying for somebody.  You don’t have to do it in church services.  If I had to that with everybody that I prayed for I’d be praying for you know thirty people all night long instead of praying for a hundred people in an hour.  And so he went to and he says, “I know that I’m supposed to cry, I know that I’m suppose to do this, but she doesn’t say that.  So he just said, “Well, God bless you and left and he felt really really bad.”  So the following week a few days later he decided to go back and quote “Do it the right way,”  and so he went back to pray for her, cry, read the Bible, speak in tongues, all of that over her get’s to the door and they open up the door he says “Is Mrs. so and so there?”  And they go, “I’m sorry you’ve missed her.”  And he goes, “I’ve missed her, I should have done it right the first time.”  He felt so bad and the woman at the door said, “It’s okay she’ll be back in a few minutes, she just had to go out and do some errands,” it wasn’t like gone to heaven, she had gone to the store completely healed..

Sid: She had already been healed.  Ha-ha.

Joan: Totally and completely healed.

Sid: Joan, I’m going to have some people that are going to have to deal with unforgiveness if I don’t turn you loose to pray for those dealing with trauma and fear.

Joan: That’s true; in this book “Power to Heal, it’ll walk you through any trauma, any unforgiveness, any generational curse, any area of your life where you’re dealing with stress.  Any situation where your children, your spouse is concerned, you’re finances, this book “Power to Heal Will” will help walk you through every, every area of your life that needs to be just totally dealt with.  Now place your hand over your heart and I know and we have seen this in the past, when I have been on programs with Sid that literally thousands of people are going to get healed, but I believe right now you are going to be set free of trauma in your life and any form of fear, every traumatic event from your entire life is going to be totally completely wiped out in a matter of moments.  “Father right now in the Name of Jesus I send the word of healing into every single heart that is listening today.  Father in the Name of Jesus I curse this spirit of trauma and fear and I command it to be gone, in Jesus Name any form of rejection, abuse, damage trauma from verbal abuse from physical abuse, whether from a parent a relative, a friend, a spouse, Father in the name of Jesus I command all of that trauma to go.  And that abuse any damage to the heart, I curse any form of the spirit of grief, and sorrow and I command that heaviness to go in Jesus name.  And Father, right now I just speak, oh I can’t get off that yeah, “Father in the name of Jesus, I command the spirit of abandonment to go, of worthlessness, of hopelessness and depression, to go in Jesus Name.  And fibromyalgia is brought on by trauma and father right now in the Name of Jesus, I send the word of healing to those that are listening today that have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia or have symptoms of fibromyalgia.  I curse that fibromyalgia in Jesus Name, I curse the spirit of pain that is attached to it; I curse any form of chronic fatigue syndrome command it to be gone in Jesus Name.  And everybody say, “That You Jesus, Thank Yeshua, Father we just thank you for everything that you have done in Jesus Name, Amen.

Sid: Thank You Jesus!  Thank You Yeshua, “I’m following instructions right now.”

Joan: That’s right.

Sid: You know Joan?  There is, you have a story that is so amazing to me about a lady in Texas that was legally blind and if she could do it, anyone could do it.  Tell me about her.

Joan: She came and it’s really a neat story, she came went to my Healing School and she was legally blind, she could see probably six inches in front of her face.  And I you know prayed with her and got a little better and then prayed for her again, it got a little better and one day she went to the mall and she had to be lead around the mall.  God told her to go to the mall and so she got lead around and she found three ladies and right in front of her she told her husband, “To stop I need to talk to these three ladies.”  And went to the one in particular in the center and said, “God, sent me to the mall today to pray for you, is there anything that you need Him to do?”  And that woman broke down and started weeping and weeping.  She said God, when she got up this morning, she said, “God if you’re real send somebody to the mall to pray with me today.”  And I want to be that person, I go into the different stores and malls or the grocery store or whatever and I’ll walk up to somebody and I’ll say, “God sent me here today.” because my steps are ordered of the Lord.  And I told them, “Is there anything I can pray with you about?  You or can be the answer to somebody’s prayer, and I want to encourage you to start praying for people in the grocery stores, outside the four walls of church, and by the way that ladies eyes are completely healed, she is driving today!  So praise God, for that too.  But God wants to use you, the missions statement of the ministry is to equip believers to take the healing power of God beyond the four walls of the church to the four corners of the earth.  And God wants us to take Him out side to the four corners of the earth which is four corners of your world and these books will equip you to take His healing power with you wherever you go.  And the four corners of the world is your four corners, is your family, your neighborhood, where you work and where you shop.  And it doesn’t have to be India, it doesn’t have to be Africa, but it’s wherever you go that to take the healing power and the saving power of Yeshua everywhere you go.

Sid: And you know as you said on the Monday broadcast, everything that your parents put into you and everything that God put into you for this next generation you’re able to put together in these two books that we’ve made a package out of because they complement each other so well.  The first book is “Healing the Wholeman Handbook” and this is a requirement, absolute requirement and your brand new book which they just can’t keep in print, “Power to Heal Receiving God’s Everyday Miracles.”  Tell me what’s going on with your brand new book and I know that it’s only been out a short while.”

Joan: It’s only been out just a few weeks and it is just is selling and I’m excited about it, but I’m excited about the fact that it’s selling number one; who wouldn’t be if it’s your book, you know. But what’s exciting is that people, the comments I’m getting through email, through you know space book, through whatever, there saying, “This needs to be a required reading of all Christians because they are not only reading quote “A good book, they are reading a book that is setting them free; God has given me and has entrusted me with a revelation that’s in this book because he knows that I’m going to open my mouth on Sid Roth radio program and I’m going to put it in a book and I’m going to record it on CD’s and do whatever to get the healing power of God out around the world.

Sid: Well, as I explained to my Mishpochah we had more healing miracles occur and I believe some wonderful miracles have just taken place, but we had more miracles occur the last time you were on our radio and TV than we have ever had from any other guest and the anointing and the miracle ministry has just increased dramatically.  Tell me about the person, real quickly that got new lungs.

Joan: Somebody in California, she came to me she had stage four cancer of the lungs and I said, “Father in the name of Jesus I curse this lung cancer and I command it to be gone, I curse every prion in this body in Jesus Name and Father in the Name of Jesus I speak two new lungs in her in Jesus Name.”  He put the lungs in there the first time, he can put them in there again, all healed and whole in Jesus Name.  And she went back to the doctor two weeks later, they did normal chest x-rays, like they do every month to check the progress of the cancer, the doctor came in and said, “I don’t know what you did, but you’ve got two new lungs in there.  God’s putting new body parts in, lungs, hearts, livers and intestines, people that have had intestines removed God’s putting them all back and making it fully functional.  It is just awesome what God’s doing.

Sid: Well, I know what I’m going to do, I’m going to turn your loose on tomorrow’s broadcast to move in words of knowledge and wisdom and release the miracle anointing.  If you know anyone that’s sick, you get them to listen to tomorrow’s broadcast…

Sid: My guest in the studio is Co Producer of It’s Supernatural Television and Messianic Radio, Janie DuVall who’s also a Jewish Believer in Jesus and on yesterday’s broad cast you found out about what happened when I became radical, Red Hot, normal believer in Jesus.  And you found out about how we started one of the first Messianic Jewish Synagogues in the United States and we bumped into a major revival.  Janie, it is so wonderful to be in revival, every week Jewish people were coming to know Jesus.

Janie: And you said that was a freedom there, you said that you knew nothing.  The two keys to me were that you were hungry and you were like little children that didn’t know anything and you just wanted Jesus, so you saw miracles.

Sid: And then, they realized I didn’t know much and so we got a Messianic Jewish Rabbi, a wonderful man of God, Manny Brotman who was ahead of an organization called the Messianic office so we shared office space and I have found, I would like to say that God’s Spirit lead me into the most significant things I’ve ever done.  But that would be a lie, and I can’t say that.  I have been literally pushed into the most significant things.

Janie: Is that including being on the radio?

Sid: Including being on the radio; I’ll tell you how it happened.  I was in the oil business as I said sharing office space with Manny Brotman and I was able to supernaturally able to do my job so I devoted most of my time as a volunteer for Manny doing Jewish Ministry with him.  And he really mentored me in understanding Jewish ministry.  One day, a man from a Christian radio station comes in and says, “Manny you should do a radio show,” and then Manny said, “Well, I want you involved in this Sid.”  And I said, “Sure, and I’ll be the behind the scenes person.”  He said, “No, no you’ll be the announcer.”  And I said, “I don’t want to be at a microphone.”  And I mean, that was the last thing I wanted to do.

Janie: So you were pushed.

Sid: He forced me.  So I was the announcer, I have to tell you Janie, my first radio show I thought that I could wing it; I could not…

Janie: What was it like; no really what was it like?

Sid: It was awful.

Janie: Ha-ha-ha-ha.

Sid: I mean I was awful, it was awful and so the next day, I wrote every word down.  I’m just the announcer mind you; I’m not doing anything beyond announcing.  I wrote every word down and I read it and it came out okay.  But then an amazing thing happened; every time Manny had to interview someone for the radio show something would happen.  Every single time and so if I didn’t do the job the show wouldn’t be done!

Janie: Oh, you mean something would happen, he would be not there and you would have to do it for him.

Sid: Oh, that’s what I meant.

Janie: Oh, so you replaced, oh wow, how interesting you really were pushed into this!

Sid: I know and I found out that I had a gift to interview, I would have never known that in a zillion years; and then TV was even more amazing.  Now you at that time, you’d been working for me what eighteen years?

Janie: Well, basically I started in 1988 and then in 1995 I knew that you were supposed to be on TV; I knew that the world needed to see the miracles that we’ve been talking about on the radio; but they needed to see it.  And so in 1995 that’s when we started the TV.

Sid: Well, the way we started it was supernatural.

Janie: It’s very amazing.

Sid: A women, a friend of mine, a Jewish believer in the Messiah called me up and said, “Sid, I’ve just deposited $25,000 in your name at a Christian Television Studio in Canada, go do your television show.  And of course before I could tell her that I didn’t have a TV Show; and then when I told you about it.  You said, “Oh, I’ve always wanted you to do it,” and so I got into TV because someone called me and that’s what I’m saying; “I’ve been pushed into everything that I’ve ever done for the Lord.”  But you know,  as I go back in time I see God’s hand even as a young Jewish boy when I was very, very young.

Janie: When you were young did you; okay you were brought up in Orthodox Jewish home.

Sid: Right.

Janie: Did you think about God at all?

Sid: God was a fire to me; I got that from my Father who got that from Moses and the burning bush and so no, God was not in my thoughts.  I probably would have said, “I think that there’s a God; I believe there’s a God.”  But He just wasn’t relevant to me.

Janie: Now, when you were six years old you had, I mean you were very afraid and what was that; you had these reoccurring thoughts; what was that?

Sid: Well, my Mother and Father use to be away at night; they use to gamble, they’d play poker and so I would be alone at night and I remember saying to myself, “I wish they’d come home, I wish they’d come home.”  Somehow I thought as a little kid, if I said it enough, they might come home and then a thought popped into my head; now I know where the thought came from.  At the time; the thought was.  I mean just out of the blue this thought pops into my head.  “What happens when you die?”  And as a little child; and of course Judaism believes in life after death but we never talked about it.

Janie: So you didn’t know about Heaven.

Sid: No, I didn’t know about anything, so I figured my logical mind was well, in this was the progression; “When you die that’s the end of you.”  So, then as a little child, I began to try to imagine, “What life would be like if I no longer existed.”

Janie: Oooo

Sid: And Janie, the thought was worse than ooo, it was so bad; whatever was me I wanted to continue living I didn’t want it to stop.  And so I did the only logical thing I could do; I block it from my mind until many years later.

Janie: “Now, did you ever hear the name Jesus, did anyone ever say anything to you about Jesus growing up?”

Sid: I do remember a little anti-Semitism, I remember someone threatening me because I was Jewish, but I’ve had very little anti-Semitism, Jesus wasn’t relevant, I’m Jewish.  Jewish people don’t believe in Jesus, so therefore he was totally irrelevant, I was happy with my religion, to be candid, with you although I was happy with my religion, I didn’t like going to synagogue because it was very boring.  I went to an Orthodox Jewish Synagogue; everything was in Hebrew; I didn’t understand a word of what was.

Janie: So it wasn’t relevant,

Sid: It was agony is what it was and I remember I had a goal in life and I think it came from my great mentor, television.  And the goal in life was to become a millionaire before I was age thirty.  And I remember I blinked my eyes a few times and I graduated college; I blinked my eyes a few more times I was married; I blinked my eyes a few times I had a child; I blinked my eyes a few more times I had a wonderful job as a an account executive with at the time with the largest stock brokerage firm in the world, Meryl Lynch.

Janie: So did it look like you were getting close to being that millionaire?

Sid: By age twenty-nine, I knew I would not be a millionaire by thirty, I would have been a millionaire when I retired, I had a wonderful career ahead of myself, but it dawned on me I’m not going to be a millionaire and therefore I’m not going to be happy.  And so therefore I have to do something about it; and I had what’s known as an early midlife crisis; I’m not proud of it, but I left my job; I Ieft my wife; I left my daughter and I went searching for happiness.  But you know if you don’t know what you’re looking for it’s a big world out there.

Janie:  “So what were you, so when you finally got out there in the world was anything making you even happy that you thought was making you happy or did you know that you were miserable?”

Sid: Well, to be candid with you I got married when I was young and I figured I missed the whole singles scene and I got involved in that and I felt that it was awful.  I mean it was absolutely the pits.  And so almost a year went by and things weren’t better, things were worse; I had been involved in an investment company, I had some employees working for me and one day one of my employees said, “Sid, I have a friend that had no physic ability and he took this meditation course and now he knows things that he never could have known before.”  And it was almost a compulsion on my part, I said, “I’ve got to meet your friend and I was in Washington, DC and his friend was in New Jersey.  And I drove to New Jersey to meet his friend and his friend told me all about this and so I immediately took this course because I figured if I could know things that my mind hadn’t been programmed, I then could make money, if I made money, I still might be a millionaire before age thirty and I could be happy.

Janie: But, you were such a logical guy, how could you even believe in that supernatural, even that kind of supernatural or were you desperate?

Sid: No, it wasn’t even that, I was actually always interested in the supernatural.  I would go to fortune tellers and people that would tell you your fortune through reading cards.  So and what I found is most of these New Age groups are loaded with Jewish people.

Janie: It’s true,

Sid: It says in the Bible we have zeal for God, but not according to knowledge.  And so if people won’t tell us about Jesus and they don’t, well then we’re going to end up in the counterfeit.

Janie: That’s right, the wrong supernatural.