HRVOJE: Having the fear of God is running towards God. It’s not running away from God. I believe it’s a door and gateway to the highest levels of glory. I believe if we have the fear of God I really believe that nothing’s going to be impossible for us, nothing.
SID: You talked earlier about seeing God and you talked about what was it? Some 80 people saw God in the Scriptures but few walked with God.
HRVOJE: That’s right. Exodus 24:9-11, that was my life Bible verse. I thought it can’t get any more glorious than that. The Bible says that Moses, Aaron, Nadab, Abihu and the 70 elders they went up to the mountain, they saw God and ate and drank with him. I thought, “Man, that’s it. That’s it. Come on. That’s it.” But then, that’s chapter 24 and in chapter 32 you see exactly the same guys except Moses and Joshua building the golden calf. The saw God yet still they ended up in idolatry.
SID: It’s hard to believe.
HRVOJE: You know what I believe? God said to me, I said, “God, how is this possible?” And God said, “Because after that incident Moses went further up. All others went down.” So all others were satisfied with what they saw and they were happy to just post it on the social media about that experience. But Moses wasn’t happy with social media. He wanted more of God. He wanted to walk with God. He said, “No, no, no it’s fine to see God. It’s fine to eat with God. It’s fine to drink with God but God show me your way. I want to walk with you.”
HRVOJE: Acts 4. I love Acts 4 where Peter and John were in front of the Sanhedrin and the Sanhedrin questioned them and you know what the Sanhedrin said? We see these guys and the Bible says they are uneducated and untrained. The word untrained in Greek is idiotes.
SID: Oh I know that one. Idiot.
HRVOJE: There you go. That’s what they saw in Peter and John but then they said, “Something is different with them.” And then they saw they walked, they have been with Jesus. And that’s what the glory of God does. I believe the glory of God, we can measure the glory of God. How can we measure the glory of God? The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 3:18, “Beholding like in a mirror the glory of God being transformed into the image from glory to glory.”
HRVOJE: Transformed into which image? Into the image of Jesus Christ. How much glory we have experienced is measured by how much are we transformed into the same image as Jesus Christ. Do we love more? Do we forgive more? Do we repent more? Do we praise more? Do we long more for the presence of God?
SID: Okay, level nine, unity with God.
HRVOJE: Unity with God. I believe that’s the highest level any human will ever reach.
SID: You said there were 10 levels.
HRVOJE: There are 10. That’s the highest for us.
SID: Okay. Tell us about the ninth.
HRVOJE: The ninth—
SID: Since that’s the only one we can reach.
HRVOJE: Level nine is unity with God and you know what? 24 hours before the hardest time of Jesus’ life he prays this prayer and he prays for unity. Unity between us Christians, between us believers and unity with God. I believe unity is the strongest bond between us. The Bible says that what God said and we know the story about the Tower of Babel in Genesis 11 and God had to mess up their languages because he said, “These people are as one.” And he said, “Nothing is going to be impossible for them.” These were unbelievers.
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