Sid: Joan Hunter is so excited about the revelation and that’s what it is and that’s what it takes, the revelation of God’s purpose for you in the last days and it’s all involved in Deuteronomy 8:18. “And you shall remember the Lord your God for it is He who gives you power to get wealth, that He may establish His covenant.” Joan Hunter it’s all there in that verse, this is what God’s up to right now.
Joan: He is, the word of God says in Malachi that He will, “Prove me now here with your tithes and offerings that I won’t open up the windows of heaven and pour out blessings.” Now in the book and it will help you walk through this, but there is reasons and hindrances for the blockage of finances coming.
Sid: You were telling me about someone that got a hold of these tapes and listen to it maybe four times and it wasn’t working the way you said it was suppose to work in their life. Tell me what happened.
Joan: I have, she actually works for me and she says “God, I’m here answering telephone, all these incredible financial testimonies coming in and how come it is not working for me?” “I’ve listened to this CD again and again; how come I’m not seeing this; how come everyone else seeing this; how come I’m not seeing it?” And was going on, she was kind of arguing with God you know sharing her heart really with God; and then God in turn says, “You have listened to it, but you haven’t done it.” Now, and she goes, “Oh, maybe that’s it.” You know and then she says, “I’m going to start doing this,” she lived in a mobile home.
Sid: “Faith without works is dead.”
Joan: That’s right, she lived in a mobile home that was really really run down, that she was renting with her son, who was a teenager and she says “Father, help with giving him a father image and things like that.” Well, within three months from that she met the man of her dreams; they are now married, moved into a beautiful two story home, absolutely incredible. They recently rented that, moved into a five bedroom home and they’re you know just expanding and remodeling it and on and on and on. And she got a beautiful diamond ring, she’s got an awesome husband and she’s got you know a bedroom and three to spare. It’s just awesome what God is doing and he’s an awesome Godly man. But you know what, whatever is blocking the blessings of God, these teachings with the book in particular will tell you how to break any form of hindrances that’s keeping blank from coming a blessing. And on these “End Time Economics” I say “If you are having problems getting pregnant,” and I said, “You know or if your children are having problems getting pregnant, I had a daughter that was having problems conceiving over almost three years.” And so I said, “Father, right now in the Name of Jesus I command all hindrances from keeping that baby” and I said her name under my breath and you can’t hear it, but I said it as I was praying over everybody there. I said, “I command all those hindrances to go in Jesus name,” my daughter got pregnant four days later.
Sid: You know and that’s the point, God wants you to be the head and not the tail and not for greed, not for the toys of this earth, but for the Kingdom sake. And tell me about that woman in Nebraska and her home.
Joan: Well, this is she seeded in one of the meetings, she had also seeded in her church and you know and blessed. And she says, “I want a new home, I want to be able to get out of my apartment and get into a home and I want a home that I can use for Him,” it was a single female, she didn’t necessarily need a large home. Well, in Lincoln Nebraska they give away one home a year, they build it and they give it away and they give out fifteen keys to fifteen different people; whosever works the key that works that’s who gets the home. And she seeded and within two weeks she went to that house that was finished and she lives in that house because her key fit. And you just pull out the key out of a whole bowl of keys and her key fit perfect; she has a beautiful, it was estimated at $250,000 in Lincoln, Nebraska.
Sid: Tell me about the couple that got approved for $25,000 car and what repentance that key and how that worked.
Joan: Oh, that is really powerful, you go in there and it is okay, your budget for is for a $20,000 car. But the guy says that but you can qualify for $25,000, and he said, but we really budgeted for 20 but you know what we have good credit, we can go for the $25,000 car. So what they did they got the car for $25,000 and then they got the car, then the payments started coming and they started getting further in debt and further in debt and further in debt and their going what’s going on here. And the amount that they were going in debt is the difference of the $5,000 loan on the car. They had walked in disobedience, they had it set in what God wanted them to do, and they went in disobedience and got the car that they were talked into so to speak and they recognized the fact that that was sin and sin of disobedience. So we had them repent, led them in a prayer, which we do that in the book, repent for disobedience, because disobedience is the deadbolt on the windows of heaven. Disobedience is the deadbolt on the windows of heaven, and so they repented for their sin of disobedience. And we said, “Father, you know I led them in the prayer, “We are sorry for what we did, here we are, what should we do now, I thank you, here we have repented, I thank you for helping us either, sell this vehicle, or show us a way that we in turn can pay for the car and keep the car.” And within two weeks of that and seeding for that car to be completely paid for, they were able to pay it off in just a few months. It was just supernatural thing it was awesome, there’s power in repentance.
Sid: In addition to repentance some people, they seem to never be able to get ahead, even though they are making more money than they have ever made in their life they’re always in debt, it’s almost as if they have a spirit of poverty.
Joan: That is very true, many times like, we are going to curse the spirit of poverty and the curse of the spirit of poverty is gone. You know that’s great and I’m a real proponent of that, but unfortunately with that spirit of poverty needs to go a changing of the mind and a renewing of the mind and the getting out of the poverty mindset. It’s like you know I I placed a call to somebody the other day, I said, “Did you hear what happened at this house?” And they go “No, what happened?” And I’m like, “It’s actually pretty exciting,” but they were anticipating it to be really bad. And I said, “The neighbors are getting a new fence which means that they’re getting a new fence too but they don’t have to pay for it.” And the mind set is, oh what happened? You know doom and gloom, oh, what happened? And we got to get rid of that poverty mindset is like looking…
Sid: Listen, just listening to you for thirty minutes gets rid of every poverty mindset and makes me and makes those listening to you feel like, if Joan can do it, I can do it.
Joan: Well, the word of God applies to Joan, but you know what the word of God applies to you too. When you understand that God wants to supernaturally get you out of debt, he wants you to bless your socks off and so you can buy new sock; Glory to God, He just wants to bless you. You know, and I had I think the best absolutely the phenomenal father in the world, you know, Charles Hunter and his desire was to bless me, bless me, bless me and that’s our Father’s heart he would have done anything for me.
Sid: But you know there are a lot of people listening that didn’t have good mothers and fathers like did and they got this image of God that is wrong.
Joan: And my natural Father abandoned me before I was born and then he came back with horrific stuff and so I understand what it is, but God sent my Dad to me, Charles Hunter and to show me what true Godlike love is. Unconditional love and just as this is a very very powerful teaching, when I went through horrific financial times about twelve years ago I thought I’m going to ask my parents for money to help me. I you know, I need help financially and I’m not going to make it unless they help me. And I reached for the phone to ask them to send me some money, because I know that they would have done it in a moment, would have wired it, whatever I needed and as I reached for the phone, God says, “Are you going to trust them or are you going to trust me, it’s time you grew up.” And they didn’t know what financial struggles I went through until my book came out on how God had healed my finances. And you know it was like, “Why didn’t you tell us?” I said, “Because God wanted me to learn to completely trust Him.”
Sid: My guest and I haven’t interviewed in a number of years now, is Gary Kah, Kah is spelled, K A H and Gary has a very unique background and as a matter of fact Gary actually had a vow, an oath almost which launched him into being one of the top investigative reporters of the end times. Now Gary you had a very unique background, your father fled the Nazi’s in I guess as he explained what went on as a young child there were certain things that didn’t make sense to you, explain.
Gary: Yes, I remember around fifth and sixth grade being old enough to really begin comprehending what my parents went through during World War II. And even though I was born over here in the states after they came over from Europe, when they would get together at family reunions with relatives they would of course talk about their younger days and what transpired during the war. And my father became a refugee he had to flee from both the Nazi’s and the communists in Croatia because they were converging on their villages there in that area. And so he and his family and a number of neighbors threw just a few belongings that they could grab on short notice, put them on the backs of wagons, formed a wagon train and ran for their lives and ended up losing everything else that they had. And they became refugees and so here they were Christians on the run during World War II. And my mother interestingly who my father met after the war in Southern Germany, she grew up in the hills of Southern Germany in a small farm village and her father, my Grandfather was very outspoken against Hitler to the point where Mom and Grandma feared for his life and prayed for him daily. And again, Mom grew up in this small village of only about three hundred people and the major had to intervene once on Grandpa’s behalf or else the Gestapo would have hauled him off because of some things that he had said. And so I thought how could that happen in a country that was known for so long as being Christian? You know a lot of people forget that the same Germany that became Nazi produced many of the greatest theologians. And of course the first Bible was printed in Germany and there is such a strong Christian heritage there and it just baffled me how could this happen? And I remember sitting in my public school room in Kettering, Ohio in sixth grade during a World History Class, I had a Christian teacher that year that was teaching it. And she was talking about World War II as well and these things that had happened and at that time I prayed to the Lord silently say “I would take a stand for Him if anything like this were to ever happen in America and I would do so regardless of the cost.” And I remember it as if it were yesterday, I still remember exactly where I was sitting and of course at a young age like that when you pray a prayer like that I suppose you never think the Lord is going to take you up on that and in my case very clearly He did.
Sid: And obviously He’s really using you in an area that it’s unfortunate and in fact I find it hard for me to comprehend why the secular media doesn’t shout from the housetops some of the information that you have obtained. As a matter of fact, I want to skip to something because to kind of whet the appetite of everyone, and I found this utterly amazing about President Obama has a cousin who ran for the President of Kenya and is one of the leaders of Kenya and that’s not amazing. But what was amazing is this man is the most radical of radical Moslems I’ve ever heard of, I mean he has burned down hundreds of churches, murdered thousands of Christians. And you say something on your video that I have never heard anywhere, that somehow there’s an association through President Obama in which he had a million dollars funded into his presidential campaign; tell me about that.
Gary: First of all this gentleman was the leader of the most powerful group of Islamic leaders in Kenya, and when he ran for President a few years back he lost narrowly and as a result a lot of rioting and killing broke out. That did get some secular media attention, it was around Christmas time in Kenya and there was a lot of bloodshed.
Sid: I know but the connection of that was President Obama’s cousin that did not get media attention.
Gary: Right exactly yeah. No that did not get out, that’s where they held back and surely they would have had to know that because this was revealed by that individual himself in an interview with BBC news, British Broadcast Corporation. In fact the headline read, O’dinga said that Obama is his cousin. And we also found a couple of pictures with Dingus meeting with President Obama and Michelle, this was before President Obama became president; this was during the campaign.
Sid: Even during the campaign how could that have that have been hidden? I mean we would think that there is at least one network that’s telling the truth? Why isn’t that network at least telling us?
Gary: You know it’s as if there has been a complete media blackout on this.
Sid: How could, all right I’ll mention it, how could FOX News not, why aren’t you knocking on the door of O’Reilly and Beck and all of those other guys?
Gary: You know we’ve had several people who’ve had direct inside tracks allegedly to some of these people with FOX and who have tried to get some of my information into their hands including my book and we haven’t heard back anything. This has been going on for a couple of years, so far nothing has happened.
Sid: But tell me the connection Gary, I have to understand this for myself, its one thing to have a cousin that’s a no good guy that murders people, but it’s another thing to help this person become president of the country, tell me that connection.
Gary: Okay, let me go back just for a moment if I may. O’dinga himself personally did not kill those people, but his backers that were so upset that he was not elected that they then went out and torched 800 churches and over a 1,000 Christians were killed in Kenya at that time and so what happened. So what happened was that things were in such disarray the government of Kenya finally said “Alright, let’s do this.” So they made this man Prime Minister and Kenya along with another gentleman who holds the President position and so the two of them is ruling jointly right now. So O’dinga is now in a very powerful position in Kenya as one of the top two leaders in that country. Now in his interview, with BBC, O’dinga told them is “The World Today” or paper he stated that senator Obama’s father was his maternal uncle. So Obama’s Father and O’dinga’s mother apparently were brother and sister, that’s the relationship right there. Now let me move on from there, during the campaign O’dinga said that Mr. Obama had on Monday taken time out of campaigning for the New Hampshire primary to call him twice to express his concern and to say that he’d also be calling Mr. Kobaki, who is the President of Kenya. And so he acknowledged that President Obama’s campaign he had been in direct contact with him. And like I’ve said earlier we actually have pictures of them together meeting. Now regarding the campaign financing it was the organ democratic movement party of which O’dinga was the top figure in that. A memo that was given to the party from the treasurer which stated on it the various individuals contributing or the organizations contributing to the O’dinga’s campaign it listed an organization called, “Friends of Senator BO.” Standing for “Friends of Barack Obama” as having donated 66,000,000 Kenya shillings which is just under a $1,000,000 which is about $950,000 at the time based on the exchange at that time that was donated by this organization. And this was an organization backing Obama and his presidential run consisting of many of his closest allies and friends. And so it would be virtually impossible for him to not have known about that, you know when an organization in his name donates this money to his cousin in Kenya, who ends up then after the campaign being made Prime Minister of that country. So this is, it really is explosive information, it is very important information.
Sid: If that had been known before the first Presidential campaign I don’t believe President Obama would have been President.
Gary: I agree with you that this would have been enough to tip the scales in direction, but it shows how closely is allied that at least in this case with this radical Islam concerning the fact that O’dinga was and still the top radical Islamic leader in Kenya.
Sid: Now, Gary your education also intrigues me, when you went to college, your major was in International Marketing and Economics. You had three different majors actually, you graduated with top honors. And they you became the Europe and Middle East Trade specialist for the State of Indiana, you traveled through some thirty different countries. Did you at that time have any thought that you were being prepared to be literally God’s man to shout from the roof tops what’s going on?
Gary: Well, you know I remember even in the first year on my jobs, some of the opportunities that I had at such a young age, it was just almost mind boggling I had to pinch myself to see if this was really happening. For example, only two months into the job, I was called upon to give the speech when a delegation of political leaders from Germany came here to visit Indiana. And I remember the Governor of Indiana being there and the Lieutenant Governor, their wives and all these top leaders from Germany. One of them was from the leader of the CDU Party at the time and here I was given this opportunity to address them and many things came out of that. And then I lead a trade mission to seven different countries including Israel.
Sid: I’ll tell you what; let’s hold that thought because we’re out of time.
Sid: I tell you when you hear my guest’s music I have to tell you we have prayer meetings once a week and we just played some of Dennis Jernigan’s music at our prayer meeting and we had reactions that we have never had before. So Dennis, I know that God had worked with you a lot and I know that there is a presence of God on you. And we are going to get into that this week, but the question I pose to you Dennis is “How have you kept that first love?” How have you kept that full presence and anointing of God on your music?”
Dennis: Well, first of all I don’t consider myself a song writer so that should tell your listeners something right there. I consider myself a receiver and what I mean by that is my goal and what has kept me honestly throughout all the years of my life is that intimacy with Jesus in knowing that apart from Him I have nothing; apart from Him I am nothing. So if I walk in relationship with Him then I’m going to be listening for what He has to say for me. In fact Psalm 45:1 says “My tongue is the pen of a ready writer,” and I address my verses to the King. So my reasoning with that is if the Lord has gifted me to receive in the area of music then I better be walking with Him in such a way that I listen for Him. And what’s so awesome about that into the walk with the Lord for me in my particular giftings is that His word says in several places that specifically Psalm 32:7 that “He is our hiding place and he surrounds us with songs of deliverance.” And Zephaniah 3:17 says, “The Lord Your God is in Your Midst and He’s a victorious Warrior and the verse ends by say that He rejoices over you with singing.” So within a sense I sing to Him but then because I’m in a relationship with Him I don’t do all the talking, I listen for what He’s singing over me. And if I’m praying, more often than not I sing my prayers to Him and a lot of times when I’m in intercession with other people, for other people I will sing, you know what is that they need; well I’m going to sing that to the Lord. And then I’ll say “Okay, Lord what do they need to hear from you; what is the song of deliverance for them and their situation? Please let me hear that.” And that’s in a nutshell what I do and I think that’s kept me from that mentality of thinking I have to perform for anything. I never have a set time to sit down and write, I just say okay Lord, I’m ready whenever You are just like Psalm 45:1 says, I want to be ready. So if I’m on an airplane I have something to write music on; if I’m riding my horse; I have something with me to write that song.
Sid: But you know something, even as you’re sharing with me Dennis, there is such a strong presence on your spoken word. You know rather than talk about it; I want them to hear a little bit. Tell me about the song that you received from heaven; and that’s what he’s saying if you didn’t catch it. The song he received from heaven called, “Hearing Your Presence.” What’s that about?
Dennis: Well, we always say, “Look come into the Lord’s presence.” But my belief is, I’m being sincere here, I don’t believe, I ever leave His presence. The reality is He is with me wherever I am so that stand to reason then I’m either refusing to acknowledge His presence or I forget that He’s there. Well, I never leave His presence and David said it like this in Psalm 139; “Where can I go from Your presence, Lord? If I go to the highest mountain, you are there, if I go to the most remote place on earth even there your hand can reach me.” So that’s the reality of the song and what I was meditating on the day I receive it. It was just the fact that man, there’s no place I can go and that gives me a lot of hope. There is hope knowing that I am never, ever alone.
Sid: And so many people that just sit under the anointing of this music get set free from emotional problems, from physical problems. And in fact one of our staff when they heard your music they said, the scripture that came of them is “The anointing destroys the yoke.” Any yoke on anyone can’t stand against this anointing. Let’s hear the song, “Here in Your Presence.”
Dennis song excerpt (5:06 – 8:09
Sid: I don’t know about you but the presence of God is so thick on Dennis’s words and Dennis’s music because if does come from heaven. But I believe Dennis that one reason that God uses you so much is you love Him so much. And one reason that you love Him so much is He set you free from so much. When you were five years old, just an innocent thing; a man exposed himself a man exposed himself in a restroom. You had problems with receiving the love your parents had in particular your father and you went the route of homosexuality. Back then, you’re a Christian, you love the Lord, you even as a young boy you were gifted in music and I believe my staff told me that when you were nine years of age you started playing piano in church. Did you have a problem with knowing what the word had to say and knowing the way you were and knowing that Jesus was real?
Dennis: Oh, for sure, that was the major conflict of my life and one of the main major reasons I never got any help was that the enemy was always there whispering, that if anyone ever finds out what you’re really like you are going to be humiliated; you are going to be rejected; you are going to be exposed and your life is going to be ruined. So I played the outer games where I was Mr. Goody two shoes on the outside but I was miserably dying on the inside. Because here’s the deal, when I was about ten or eleven years old I already knew what my struggle was; I had already failed sexually with other boys by that time believe it or not and I’m not proud of that I am very ashamed of that. But the reality is I also overheard some of the men who taught me about God from the time I was a little boy all the way through high school one day they were discussing what they thought of homosexuals and I realized that they’re talking about me and they just don’t know it. And these, when you’re ten years old and you hear that and these are the men that taught you about God, guess what you think God thinks of you. I thought that God hated me.
Sid: Well, I have some people that are friends that are still in the gay lifestyle and they have talked themselves in theologically that God over looks that. Did you go that route?
Dennis: No, because…
Sid: You knew.
Dennis: I knew. Sin is sin and regardless of what labels we put on it. Sure, so I had to get to that place in my life where I just, had pretty much abandoned all hope; I really did feel hopeless all of my grown up years all the way through college I felt utterly hopeless. I thought that there is no way. And then when I was a senior in college I finally had a mentor who was investing himself in my life and just pouring himself into me; praying for me; just really taking care of my emotional needs and there came to a point that I practiced John 8:32 “You’ll know the truth and the truth will set you free.” First step of truth is always our own honesty, so I got honest with him and then I felt this such a flood of relief and hope flood in just by sharing it with one other person that that was shattered in an instant because then my mentor made a sexual advance on me. And that’s when I honestly feel; I understand hopeless now from that point; I actually went at that point went and tried to take my own life. And the only problem with…
Sid: I am beginning to see how God’s using you; you were just totally broken vessel saying take all of me. I don’t want any of me; but we are getting a little bit ahead of our story. But I’ll tell you that there hope in any situation that you have.
Sid: Now I’ve never met my guest before but I’ve had a chance to talk with her a little bit and digest her books and CDs. Her name is Dr. Cindy Trimm and sometimes I wish you could be a fly on the wall on the conversations I have with my guests before the interview starts and I almost want to say to my guests as I did with Cindy. “Stop, you’ll tell me this on the air because this is too good to just talk about.” Cindy is a bestselling author; she’s really a tremendously motivational high impact teacher. She’s a former senator from Bermuda, her messages have a prophetic vent and I’m always interested in prophecy. Cindy were you born in England?
Cindy: I was born in Bermuda, a British colony.
Sid: Aha, okay just briefly, because of those that aren’t familiar with you; you were raised in a tough situation in a home that was in poverty. And your father abandoned your mother when you were two and your mom had seven children. It was a pretty tough upbringing but the thing that encourages me is you had a mother that really loved God and really believed in God. Did this make a bid difference in your life?
Cindy: It made all the difference, I believed that it affected how she parented us and to tell you the truth I didn’t know that I was poor until I grew up; because she was not a negative person. And I think even before I was a believer I was trained in faith and I thank my mother for that; she’s the first person that demonstrated faith.
Sid: And I find it also interesting that the before you were even born again you had a reoccurring dream about what you’d be doing in the future. What was that dream?
Cindy: The dream was me being in a bus and I would be in the back of the bus; I was young; back of the bus driving of being driven. And the bus driver would die at the wheel and no one knew how to drive this bus. I was young and I ran all the way from the back of the bus and just before the bus along with all the passengers would go over a ravine I would take the wheel and drive people to safety before we crashed. And I dreamed this dream over and over and over until the day I gave my heart to the Lord. And the second dream had to do with me being going home and it was a dark passage way and it was always this huge foot that would try to crush me. And inevitably I would try to run under a rock and the person or this foot could not find me because I was protected. And then the light would shine and this creature or being would disappear and I believe the two dreams the first one with the bus was my deliverance ministry. And the second one had to do with the supernatural; the Rock being Christ Jesus that would hide me. And then the light would shine and bring deliverance and protection from these powers of darkness.
Sid: Tell me about the time you were seventeen years of age and you were in the kitchen of the church and you got born from above.
Cindy: Yes, I got filled with the Spirit; there was nobody around and I was filled with the Holy Spirit. I just heard the Lord say, “Lift your hands and as I lift my hands the Holy Spirit came upon me.” And again, there was nobody around and I had an experience with the Lord right there in the kitchen.
Sid: Was there more to it than that when the Holy Spirit came on you, I’m curious?
Cindy: When the Holy Spirit came on me? Well let me back up a little bit, my mother of course sent us to church so I grew up Methodist. And then every Ash Wednesday I went to the Anglican Church and I loved the Lord, but I did not know anything about salvation and giving my heart to the Lord. And after on a New Year’s weekend I went to the church and I felt prompted to go to the altar and I knelt down and I head God speak to me and say “Give Me your heart.” And that’s when I got saved, I was seventeen years old. I was looking for a place to be discipled and I went to another church, I joined another church and they were excellent in discipling, but they didn’t believe that women could preach and they didn’t believe in being baptized with the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues. And so I was being discipled, an excellent church, however I believe that this dream was about, the reoccurring dream was about to come to pass. And I went into the kitchen one afternoon just to get water and this is in the church and this is where I had an experience and an encounter with God. And He filled me with the Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues and there my gift of prophecy was activated and it was from that point that God gave me supernatural insight into the lives of people. And I was able to see potential and the future of people.
Sid: That’s got to be such a marvelous gift; you can help people so much with that!
Cindy: It is because so many people are looking for meaning and purpose so many and I believe that one of the greatest gifts that we can give to another man is to give them hope in the future; for their future. And God said, “That I have a wonderful plan for you.” out of the book of Jeremiah 29:11” and He says, “These plans are good to give you a future hope.” And this is what the world is missing; the world is missing a hope in the future.
Sid: We were discussing that before we went on the air about the future of America and I can’t wait to get this material that you’ve written and the two CDs and hardback book “Commanding Your Morning” into their hands. Because what a revelation that’s going to transform their life, but I must ask you one more thing out or my own curiosity. And that is you had a dream about one of my favorite people with miracle ministries, Katherine Kulman; tell me about that.
Cindy: I was preparing to minister one night and as I was preparing I had a vision and in the vision I felt like I was transported ahead in time. And one of the reasons why I feel like I was transported is because when I came out of this vision about two hours had passed and I could not account for these two hours. And then I had started to dress, I had finished dressing and I don’t recall dressing at all. But I was transported somewhere in time and I was on a stage and as I was on the stage and there were thousands of people ahead of me, hundreds of pastors behind me and I raised my hand and a costume of Kathryn Kulman came upon me.
Sid: That’s a mantle; a mantle of Kathryn Kulman came upon you in this dream.
Cindy: Yes, it was a vision.
Sid: In this vision.
Cindy: Yes.
Sid: Have you seen, as you’ve ministered that type of ministry going on in your life because I’ve seen Kathryn Kulman? In fact when I was a baby believer in the Messiah, being Jewish I hadn’t even read the Bible, she found out about me and I was a guest on two of her television programs. And as far as I’m concerned I have not seen a ministry to that magnitude since hers. What have you seen in your ministry that is similar?
Cindy: I haven’t seen anyone like hers as well, but I can give you one example in Atlanta, Georgia. We were in the Dome, maybe 40,000 people or so and as I stood on the stage there was a lot of pastors and ministers behind me similar to the dream. And the Lord told me raise your hands and walk across the stage. And as I raised my hand and walked across my stage there was no contact with anybody the whole place from front to back, about 40,000 people were slain the Holy Spirit.
Sid: Oh, I wish I had been there! Did they get that on tape?
Cindy: It’s on YouTube.
Sid: Oh wonderful, I’m going to take a look at that right after the show because I have seen like Reinhardt Bonke, I’ve seen a little of that, but nothing like what you just described. I’ve got to see that. Tell me why someone should want your book, “Commanding Your Morning” and your two CDs “Commanding Your Morning?”
Cindy: It’s amazing because most people feel as if they have no control over what’s happening to them. And a lot of people are having a Job experience where things seemingly are going wrong without rhythm without reason. But Job interviewed God and he asked God this question. “Why are these things happening to me?” And in the book of Job 38:12 God answers and says, “Have you commanded your morning since thy days and caused the dayspring to know his place that it might take hold of the ends of the earth and the wicked might be shaken out of it.” And it’s interesting because life does not have to just happen to us there’s power in the spoken word. And I believe that we can down load success and prosperity into our days the night before. And this is why commanding the morning is important; when you go back to book of Genesis “God was able to say, “Let there be light and there was light.” And the book of Hebrew says that “By faith we understand the worlds were framed by the Word of God.”
Sid: Listen, you have such supernatural prayers in this book that people can state in the morning or the evening before that will change their life. As a matter of fact there are people listening to us right now, you’re missing your compete destiny. You know that, you’re not telling anyone, but you’re missing that and until you decide to reverse the perpetual cycle of disorder in your life you’re going to continue to experience the same cycles of defeat in failure…
Sid: My guest Craig Hill is going to light a fire on your marriage and where you have almost given up, don’t give up; the God factor, the supernatural factor is ready to happen in your marriage. Now Craig you’ve been hammering at the husband’s for a while, I want to understand from a wife’s perspective of what she might be doing to savage a marriage.
Craig: Sid, what I found was that many women don’t understand what does the Bible mean when the Apostle Paul says you’re to respect your husband. She says, “Well, I respect him, you know I think he’s a nice guy and all that, but here’s what I’ve discovered respect really means, what every husband wants. He wants to be accepted, he wants to be admired, he wants to be appreciated and I boil it down to a real simple thing; rather than being criticized for what he isn’t doing to meet her needs, he want to hear a message that says to him you’re a good husband. What I find that many wives do to their husbands without realizing it, they are continuing sending their husband a message bad, bad husband you didn’t do this right, you didn’t do that right. How come you pray for everybody else, you never pray for our family? How come you’re always there for everybody else, you’re never there for us. How come you did this wrong, you did that wrong, when are you going to rise up and be the spiritual head of our house and lead this family in prayer and all that kind of thing coming from a wife to husband feel I must be a miserable failure in her sight. The other thing that I found was that wives don’t realize how sensitive the heart of husband is because he looks strong and yet on the inside she can deeply wound him through criticism and through judgment and through conveying to him that everything he does, or many things that he does are wrong. You know I’m thinking that one of the biggest difficulties that wives have is to believe that their husband many, many times wound them without realizing it. The thing that I’ve found is that is a deception for most wives.
Sid: They think that it’s intentional.
Craig: They do, that is exactly what they think, they think that he did that on purpose and when she confronts him and says “You hurt me, you did that, you took the kids to the State Fair, we were talking about, on purpose on the weekend when I was out of town just to hurt me. Well no, that’s not true; He didn’t even realize that, he wasn’t trying to do that. Here’s the biggest thing that wives don’t realize; their husbands are not intentionally trying to hurt them. And when a husband says, I don’t know I did anything wrong, I wasn’t trying to hurt you. Most wives don’t believe them. Let me give you this example Sid, it would be like this, suppose a wife was coming out of the grocery store with her hands full of groceries, full of bags of groceries and as she stepped out of the store a man walking down the sidewalk runs right into her, knocks those groceries out of her hands and the groceries are flying everywhere, and she angrily picking up those groceries and she looks up at him and says, “What’s wrong with you, why don’t watch where you’re going, are you blind or something?” And the man says, oh, I’m so sorry, yes as a matter of fact, I am blind, normally I go out with my seeing eye dog who helps me but unfortunately he was run over by a car yesterday and this is the first day to try to make it on my own and I guess I’m not doing too well, I’m so sorry. And the woman stands up and had an immediate paradyne shift and change of heart and she says to him, “Oh had no idea I’m so sorry, where are you trying to go, may I help you?” Now what changed the situation didn’t change, it was exactly the same; what changed was her understand of motive. She understood that this man literally was blind and did not intentionally knock the groceries out of her hand, as opposed to this man is self consumed, unconcerned about anything else and just ran into me because he’s careless. So that’s a totally different paradyne what I want most wives to know is this, you have married a blind man, please help the blind man don’t judge him, don’t condemn him. I’ve found that more that 90% of the time when your husband offends you, wounds you, makes you feel that he doesn’t love you, doesn’t care about you it’s not intentional, it’s that he’s blind. He honestly didn’t see it, he didn’t know it and when you confront him with it, expecting him to take responsibility and say, “Oh, you’re right and I’m so sorry please forgive me; the reason he doesn’t is he honestly can’t see it.” And if you can get that in your heart as a wife, so that your motive and intent becomes, let me help him, rather than let me judge him, condemn him, and feel like he doesn’t care about me. The reason he hurt you is not because he doesn’t care about you, the reason he hurt you is because he didn’t see it, he didn’t know it. And if you can allow that paradyne shift to take place in your heart as a wife so that you begin to understand his heart. He really does love me; he really does care about me; if you can do that as a wife that is a simple natural step that you can take that will begin to supernaturally change your marriage. What I mean by that is what you can do today, is when your husband comes home, or when you see him ask him that question; “Have I made you feel like you don’t do anything right in my sight; have I made you feel judged and criticized, and then just listen to his heart? If he says yes, ask him to forgive you and tell him you love him, you admire him. Another thing that I’ve found Sid, one other thing is that husbands work very, very hard. They put up with a lot at work sometimes a mean boss, sometimes mean customers, sometimes many pressures and difficulties at work. The reason they do that is because they love their family; because they love their wife, they love their children and there’s one word that convey word that conveys great value to a husband that many husband’s never hear from their wife. And that word is simply this, thank you. Thank you for all the pressure there, thank you for all you put up with at work, I know you do that because you love me, you love our family, I so admire you, thank you for working so hard for us, appreciate you, I admire you, you’re my husband, you’re a gift from God. And you know if you will do that tonight for your husband it will begin to change something instantaneously in your relationship. He will begin to open his heart back up again, that is the one thing that husbands are waiting to hear is that simple word from a wife, thank you, I appreciate you. That is what we perceive as respect, that’s what Paul is talking about in Ephesians Chapter 5 and I find that most wives are not seeing that or totally oblivious to that and they think that if I just tell them all the things that he did wrong that he’ll change. And what does is convey a relational message to the husband that you’re a failure in my sight that deeply wounds him and he will close up and withdraw. So that’s a critical thing. On the other side, I wound my wife many times without realizing it and if I will stop and ask her how I’ve made her feel, and once I understand that and apologize even though I don’t think I was wrong I may not have been wrong on a topical issue but if I was wrong in the way I communicated to her in making her feel valueless and if I repent and take responsibility for that and ask her to forgive me, again it will supernaturally release the Holy Spirit to begin to heal the spirit of that marriage.
Sid: I can tell you when I read that in your book it just hit me so hard it’s so right and I just never looked at it that way, I looked at black, you know I’m a prophetic type person, everything is black and white and there is no room for that second level that unseen level.
Craig: Exactly and many times, I can be right on the topic level, I don’t think the man that took the kids to the State Fair, he wasn’t wrong, he was right to take his kids to the State Fair but what he was wrong in was not understanding what happened to his wife in being willing to deal with her feelings and convey value and love to her. And that’s what Apostle Paul says in Ephesians 5:32 & 33 is that he is to love her and she is to respect him and again if we don’t know what that means then we are very busy doing exactly the opposite and not realizing that we are doing it and doing damage to the spirit of our marriage, wounding each other and wondering why we aren’t having a very pleasant experience.