Sid: I’m going to tell you something if you have anything wrong with your spine or your back you listen to this show all five days and you’re going to get an amazing miracle; you’re going to be healed. My guest Ricardo Sanchez he’s won Dove Awards, he’s nominated for the Grammy Award, but through life experience and through intimacy with God developed a way that the limits in your life are about ready to be unshackled to come off of you. I want you to get know Ricardo just a little bit Ricardo your age 5 and your already playing music and singing in your family band; what did you do?
Ricardo: (Laughing) Well, hello Sid and to your audience as well, it’s truly an honor to be here. Yes, I was 5 years old and what I tell people is that ever since I can remember remembering there was always music in my family. And obviously with a name like Ricardo Sanchez I grew up in a Latin home and my father loved music so there was constant Mariachi music, Latin style of music being played throughout my home and my father his desire was to be a Latin singer. The only problem was he didn’t have a great voice to do that, but he taught his children how to sing, there are six of us total I’m the youngest of six. Three of us grabbed a hold of this passion and began singing at the age of 5 for different church groups around Phoenix, Arizona and such.
Sid: And you became a musician with…most people are familiar with Israel Houghton, and he actually mentored you. One day God speaks to you to walk away from the wonderful ministry you have and do a CD, but you were a little nervous over it. Why?
Ricardo: Well I tell you it’s always embarrassing… well I should put it this way it takes faith to step out and do something that you’ve never done before to actually walk on metaphorically speaking walk on water that things you have never seen before. It takes courage, it takes something that you can’t learn from a textbook or in a class and here I was. You know I was at the age of 30 at the time and God tells me to go out and begin to invest $20,000 into a CD. There are millions of CD’s made every year, and what would be you know so different about my CD? But I just felt that there’s something inside my spirit to get out there and I heard God say “Write songs and put them in the hands of worship leaders, write songs where my spirit would flourish, write songs where churches would begin to see the supernatural with a prophetic flow where I can move and speak genuinely to My people.”
Sid: Now but according to my notes God spoke to you when you were really struggling with doing this and He said something very profound, what did He say?
Ricardo: Well, I’ll tell you one of the things that I had seen Sid is that so many people are getting glory, so many people’s names are on CD’s. And there was even an encounter with just name her Sister Sandpaper in our church who told people that Ricardo is just out for money, he’s going to you know keep all of this money and blah, blah. And so I went before the Lord and what I see now is false humility. And I said “God I don’t want my name on this record, I don’t want my name on these songs, this is not about me.” And in the midst of worship to Him and in the midst of prayer this morning, that specific morning, I heard the voice of God speak to me Sid and He said “Ricardo, what makes you think any of this has to do with you; this has nothing to do with your glory, this has to do with My glory; this has to do with My Word.” And I realized that in that moment that my songs, my sermons no prophetic word has ever helped anybody. What has helped people is the anointing in the song, it’s the anointing in the sermon, it’s the anointing in the prophetic word the utterance. It was in that moment that my faith just caught on fire and it leaped and I began to write songs and that’s really where it began.
Sid: Ricardo you know some people are really proficient in seeing things in the Spirit, I’m proficient in feeling things in the Spirit. And I feel an awesome presence of God over your life; now that just doesn’t come automatically, what’s your worship like? Personal worship I mean.
Ricardo: Sid our personal worship life is a lot like our public worship life, there is really no difference, every time I go before God it’s different and every service that we worship it’s different because God is forever moving. So whether it be that I’m walking through something economically, physically, or spiritually I always enter my office there’s either a guitar, a keyboard or a piano near me and I will pick up right before I open up the word I’ll pick up my guitar, or go to the keyboard and I’ll begin to play. And a lot of it is feeling the environment but also understanding intellectually with my natural mind where I am, what my family’s walking through, what I’ve experienced on Sunday morning with the word, scripture I’m memorizing, I’m studying. And I’ll just begin to play and play a melody, melodies will come and then I’ll just open up mouth a lot like Mike Maiden who has introduced me to the prophetic songs. I’ll just begin to open my mouth and sing prayers to God, and that’s where my worship starts. And then I might go into a chorus that I might know, a hymn that I might know, but then I’ll just allow room and space for God to speak to me and to move me to my next place throughout the day.
Sid: Now what I’m seeing is there is a unique presence of God when you worship Him in a public arena that affects people. I mean literally we’ll talk about it later this week the deaf can hear, the blind can see.
Sid: The lame can walk but there’s something else that’s something that everyone here can relate to that’s listening to us and people have one or more areas in their life that are hopeless. You have a song on the album “It’s Not Over,” and that’s the name of the song “It’s Not Over.” What does that mean to you?
Ricardo: Oh, my family and I walked through an experience with our son that we’ll get into in a minute, but it was a moment where I desperately needed Heaven to move, I needed God to move. I had this simple revelation that when the presence of God the Bible says “He inhabits the praises of His people.” And so when the presence of God, the promise of His presence comes in our praise and in our worship and what I saw was not just Jesus coming but in the Spirit what I saw was His entire Kingdom comes with Him. It’s not just God and His grace it’s God and His mercy and His power and His forgiveness and His blessing and His anointing; His entire Kingdom comes with Him. And so in the midst of this season that Jeannette and I were walking through and our family I needed Heaven to come down; I needed a miracle. I needed the supernatural to be tapped into and activated in my season and in my moment. This song just kind of flowed from that incidence it kind of flowed into our season into our circumstance and begin this balm this healing…
Sid: But the anointing on this song is going to flow into your circumstance, into your problem right now because I proclaim on behalf of Almighty God it is not over.
Ricardo worshiping: “It is Not Over.”
Sid: My guest is red hot for the Messiah, I’m red hot for the Messiah but I want more, I want less of me and more of Yeshua of more of Jesus. My guest’s name if Peter Whitehouse and he’s involved in prayer in the Albany, New York region of New York state. They are beginning to sense in the Spirit that there is such a major outpouring of revival that is ready to hit planet earth. Now Peter in your book, and he has a new book out called “Returning to Normal,” and unfortunately I don’t think most people know what normal is. But you discuss this area and I want to discuss it with you right now, we have the greatest plans in the church, we have the greatest programs. We have the greatest, I’ll use this word I probably shouldn’t but I will, entertainment and all of these different plans and programs. And yet society seems to be getting worse not better, what’s the problem?
Peter: Much of what we do is in the power of the flesh you know we pray a few prayers and then we go ahead and do what we think if best many times according to the ways of the world. But that’s not the way that God desires it to be done, we’re to take time to be with God. We need to hear from God and then follow the leading of the Holy Spirit. The church has become lukewarm, it is diluted, it is compromised but, it still the love of God’s life. He desires that we would love Him with all of our heart. So normal Christianity is just that, it’s being in love with God, it’s being completely abandoned to His purposes, now there’s no room for lukewarmness, there’s no room really for our own agendas. We belong to Him, He has purchased us with His own blood, we belong to Jesus Christ; we surrender our rights completely. We have no rights, we’ve been purchased by Him and He in turn loves us, cares for us and accomplishes His purposes through us.
Sid: Now that is not real seeker sensitive preaching but you’re as a matter of face that doesn’t even remotely look like 21st century American Christianity what you’re describing. How could we get so far… if you read the Bible what you’re saying is not outrageous it’s normal, how did we get so far removed from normal?
Peter: Well unfortunately we carry this treasure in earthen vessels and these clay pots you know tend to leak. Throughout history our fervency for God has really only lasted about a generation and then someone how it dissipates and we compromise as flesh speaks loudly we compromise, and that is in every area of life. Then of course there is the usual divisions that take place and competitions and jealousies and we end up with diverse doctrines and church splits and so we end up a mess. You know I think what many people don’t realize is when we look at the condition of our nation at this current, time is that it was the church that declined first and then society followed suite. In other words this mess is our fault, (Laughing) and until we take responsibility, repent and get right with God we won’t see a change in our society. It’s not by electing another politician or having another Supreme Court justice it is the church getting right with God and then the blessing of God spills out and changes society. You can see the same scenario in Israel, and the book of Judges is a cycle of six revivals, decline revival, decline and then revival again and how we need that…
Sid: Now this generation has even seen revival, we can read about it, we can read history about it but we’ve never even seen it.
Peter: Yeah, yeah do you know that in 1905…well let’s go back in 1902 R.A. Torrey was exhorting his readers to pray for revival. He went to Melbourne, Australia and found that there were 1700 neighborhood prayer groups convening each week, God had poured out a Spirit of Supplication and then revival broke out there. We all know about the Welch Revival, Evan Roberts 1904 transformed Wales and part of Europe and those in the United States saw this wave coming and pastor and leaders began to begin to meet together wondering how they could best facilitate what they believed God was going to do. And of course there was extraordinary prayer taking place here in the United States. In 1905 revival hit the shores and one example of what the magnitude of what we’re talking about Atlantic City in 1905 had 60,000 in its population. After the Spirit of God overshadowed that city and much of our nation there were only 50 unconverted people out of 60,000.
Sid: Oh, I would just love to see that we haven’t seen things like that Peter. But it’s happening right now in the Spirit. And your warning is not “Oh God make it happen, oh God how will we handle when 99.9% are brand new baby believers and they have to grow up and they have to able to be equipped for the works of ministry.”
Peter: (Laughing) that is absolutely right and I’m praying that many will grab a hold of this truth and begin to seek God.
Sid: Can you picture Las Vegas this thing happening to, what will happen? Well, all the casinos will become meeting places for things of God.
Peter: And you know that right now sounds so impossible but who would believe that after Perestroika hit in Russia in 1989 that the communist halls would be turned into places where the gospel is preached and 3,000 people would cram into these places and give their life to the Lord. There was a 7 year period I’m sure that you know of this and have seen it where thousands of people, millions came to the Lord. Who would have believed it? Well, let’s believe that for here and for our nation we’re going to see this happen, it’s coming soon to a local church near you. (Laughing)
Sid: People don’t want to pray they just want to do, encourage people to pray right now will you do that. Tell us why we should pray.
Peter: Nothing happens apart from prayer. This is what I believe God’s showed me. He’s given man a free will, He does not take that back, He does not manipulate and play us like a bunch of marionette puppets. But what He does do is stir the heart of man by His Holy Spirit to pray. Our prayer invites God into the situation and then God answers the prayer. And so in other words the Lord initiates the prayer by His Spirit, He gives us the privilege of praying it back to Him and then He answers it. God is all and all, make no mistake about that. But man must freely submit and they must pray in order for God to intervene. So nothing happens in the earth apart from prayer. It’s not going to just occur God prior to revival always stirs first a few and then the flame increases. For instance, I can tell you that I caught the vision to pray for revival about 25 years ago and to speak about. There were very few people that even wanted to hear about it.
Sid: How did you even catch the vision back then?
Peter: Actually I ministered at… I’ll just tell you a quick testimony. After I was filled with the Holy Spirit, repented of my sins and was filled with the Holy Spirit I was ministering at a city mission and I saw a few men; there was 30 men in the room and I shared my testimony and 2 men came to the Lord. And it touched my heart and I was grateful for the 2 but I didn’t know any better, you know I thought that all 30 of them should have come forward. (huh) As I left you know the leaders there they patted me on the back and they said “Peter that was great you did a great job.” And I went in my car and I cried and I said “That you for the 2, but what about the other 28?” I said “I don’t want to be just a nice guy that does nice things and have somebody pat me on the back and say “That was nice.” I want to see peoples’ lives changed and the Lord spoke one word to me and that word is reverberated for all these years. He said “Pray.” And I knew that He wasn’t talking about the 15 minutes of prayer that I was praying. He was talking to me about a life of prayer and as often as I’m sure you know it God when God speaks something then someone else confirms it and someone else confirms it and then that’s exactly what happened. And He was able to lead me deeper and deeper into prayer. In these times of prayer I began to see and know that the church was desperately in need and when I would go to the mission field and come back and try to tell people about the needs over there you know people said “Oh, that’s nice.” but no one seemed to really care, a few people did. And I would think you should be standing on…
Sid: But it’s changing today, how is it changing today?
Peter: Right now there is more prayer occurring than ever before in the history of the world. The Lord poured out His Holy Spirit for these past three decades in various moves of God. There are more Spirit filled believers now on the face of the earth than ever before.
Sid: But there are many listening to us right now that if they were to read the nuggets that you have in your new book “Returning to Normal” they would become normal.
Sid: Now if you’re like me you love studying Bible prophecy. From a supernatural perspective it is second to nothing because before things occur God says there going to occur, and in the same book that He states these things will be says that if a prophet comes in my name and has a prophesy and it doesn’t come to pass there’s one thing that you know for sure I did not send him. I require 100% accuracy, why does God require 100% accuracy because He’s seen the events before they happen because He’s in a realm called eternity where there’s no time. That’s why Bible prophesy is so wonderful but God has timing for us to understand certain aspects of end-time Bible prophecy. And I get so excited when I find someone that has got a new understanding of these prophecies that from our perspective look like they’re about ready to happen, and that is Dave Brennan. Dave I find it really interesting you had a Catholic background. You didn’t understand the scriptures too well, but in around 1992 you had a terrifying dream, tell me about that.
David: I did and just to give a little background I was going through some marital issues at the time and I was in an apartment in Florida and my family was in New Orleans; we did business in Florida and I was by myself. There was a Bible on the shelf and I tried to read it, I had never tried to read it before it had been given to me by somebody going door to door and I just took it and put it on the shelf and forgot about it. I certainly wasn’t saved and I tried reading it and Sid it made no sense to me. It was odd the sentences the way they were designed didn’t make any sense to me what so ever. And I had heard if you read the Bible you’d get some comfort and I needed comfort right then and that was the whole purpose for doing it. And I made the effort and it just didn’t work out. So I went to bed that night and in the middle of the night I had a dream the like of which I’d never before had in my life the vividness of it was different.
Sid: Were you just observing something or were you actually in the dream?
David: Well, I was observing and what I observed was terrifying. It was red and then it turned toward me it was a huge dragon just the head and very, in the typical sense that you see these dragons in Biblical sketches which I was not familiar with at that time. And it turned and began coming after me and I awoke at that moment and I was in a puddle of perspiration which had never before happened and my heart was racing so fast that I began to become concerned about my physical wellbeing. And eventually as I sat up in bed and I’m all wet from perspiration I begin to calm down. I began to think about it and it really concerned me. And I had heard people these words and then I decided I’m going to say these words. And I looked up in the bedroom in the dark of the night and I said “I accept Jesus Christ as my Savior.” And eventually, you know, went tried going back to sleep and eventually I fell asleep. The next morning when I woke up the dream was very fresh and I remember it like it was yesterday even right now. When I picked up the Bible that morning I gave another shot and it was completely alive like I’ve never read anything before in my life. And the meaning just jumped out at me and I couldn’t put it down and from that point forward I just began devouring the Bible; and before that I had an interest actually in Bible prophecy because a friend and I used to listen to tapes on it. But I was not saved and I can understand people having an interest in supernatural events which certainly prophecy is but not being saved yet. And I tell you what the transformation when I would read the Bible was absolutely mind blowing.
Sid: It sounds to me like you’re in your DNA was to understand a prophetic understanding, you had an interest. What about Israel, even before you knew the Lord did you have any interest in Israel?
David: I did I liked Israel from a political standpoint I received my degree in college in Political Science. In 1984 I was a Campaign Manager in the Reagan-Bush election effort in Louisiana and met the President. I always had an interest in politics, but from a political standpoint I was a big fan of Israel. When a friend of mine began getting these tapes on Bible prophecy and I started listening to them with him. It absolutely fascinated me that how can this be. I guess that also probably softened up my heart for the moment a couple years later you know when I had that experience.
Sid: Well, I have no doubt that you have been anointed to reveal and end-time missing understanding of prophecy. Now one of the things that God put into your hands and I’ve never heard of this you have information about an ancient Egyptian scroll that actually sounds very much like the judgments that came on Egypt in the exodus.
David: It is and it just amazing I came across this. It’s referred to as Leiden 344 that’s the catalog entry in the museum of antiquity in the Netherlands. Well, what does that mean? It’s an ancient Egyptian papyrus and it was written about 3500 years ago. The short name for it is the papyrus ipuwer. Ipuwer was a fellow that lived 3500 years ago and he was obviously a character that was an adviser to pharaoh just like we have today the president has an array of counselors and advisers. Well this fellow Ipuwer was an adviser. Something happened though for him to write the papyrus that we’re talking about. Something very big happened in Egypt and in fact he writes in such a manner as to be in admonition against Pharaoh which one did not do back then but he apparently did. We don’t know if he got away with it but he did it because something really big seemed to happen. The papyrus was found in 1822 around the pyramids. What it relates Sid is just specific details recorded from the Egyptian perspective of events that transpired long ago in Egypt that are eerily similar to what happened and is recorded in the Book of Exodus.
Sid: In other words it’s the same judgments you’re reading about. So he was just recording what occurred. What did this mean to you?
David: Well, it was so fascinating I really delved into it and it showed me actually something I personally didn’t need to see but I can understand the need on the part of many others that it just reconfirms the book that we call Exodus even as old as it is, is actually confirmed from a secular perspective. For example we know in Exodus that the river waters were turned to blood; well some people try to say that that was just figuratively speaking. But let me tell you in this papyrus he talks about blood is everywhere; the river is blood he talks about. He talks about men this is his quote this is from 3500 years ago on the papyrus; “Men shrink from tasting human beings and thirst after water.” In other words the blood is in the water and they can’t drink the water because there’s blood in it exactly what Exodus tells us happened.
Sid: And what I find fascinating is you then piggyback to today and you see parallels of when Egypt went against Israel, and when the US or nations of the world go against Israel.
David: Yes, an you know we look at the book of Exodus and we think in terms of well the pharaoh was trying to prevent the Jews from leaving, therefore these events these very unusual events unfolded. But there’s another angel to that perspective you know it was the land that the Lord was sending the Jews to possess so essentially pharaoh was preventing the Jews from possessing the land, and the Lord took very strenuous actions. And we see today and I know we’ve talked about other individuals who have been on your show who have talked about these strange coincidences and I use that term now kind of tongue in cheek of historically significant disasters unfolding at the like of which would include 911 and Hurricane Katrina with timing to the day usually then an effort begins against the promise land.
Sid: Well, you see I see the count down and you do too of when someone orchestrates dividing up the land of Israel that’s what releases all of these judgments again.
David: Yes and we’re seeing that unfold…
Sid: Whoops we’re out of time. When you see his revelation from Zechariah it’s what’s happening today. My friends in Israel that are Jewish believers in the Messiah they’re lives are being preserved because no weapon from against them can prosper; I want the same for you.
Sid: When you get ahold of this translation “The Power New Testament – Revealing Jewish Roots.” You’re going to… if you thought you were red hot you won’t be able to put this down because this is the only New Testament that I know that not only is it called “The Power New Testament” because it brings out the tenses, and the power, the punch if you will in the New Testament that most other translations do not. It also explains the Jewish roots and the idioms, and the customs of the day. If you didn’t understand this you would miss so much. I have the translator on the telephone Bill Morford. Bill I believe that you got such…in addition to studying Greek. What particular Greek translation did you use for this particular New Testament?
Bill: I used the 4th Edition of the United Bible Society.
Sid: Now why did you use that one?
Bill: Because the United Bible Society is a group of Greek scholars meeting in Germany. There whole life work is studying the ancient Greek manuscripts and determining which ones are closest to what the author would have written in the first century. They use a study method called Textural Criticism, and that’s essentially the same type approach in determining the proper text for the ancient Greek classics. So it’s a very familiar pattern that they follow.
Sid: Now Bill I come from an Orthodox Jewish background, but I’m 21st century Orthodox Jewish background. I don’t understand the idioms that were common place when the New Covenant was penned. For starters explain to us what an idiom is.
Bill: An idiom is an expression that is not literal. It would be like we say in English “It’s raining cats and dogs” meaning it’s really pouring out there. If someone does not have the same background as we have is not used to that expression that would really be strange to be “raining cats and dogs.”
Sid: You know one of the ones I’ve wondered about, and I don’t know what your understanding is, where it talks in the New Testament about if “Your right hand offends you cut your hand off.” That had to be an idiom.
Bill: Oh it is. The right hand is a significant too because it means power. See Jesus at the right of God; Jesus was the power of God walking on earth, and the right hand is speaking of power. So it’s your right hand and you cut it off it means you are overbearing that you’re exercising power beyond what’s called for.
Sid: Now recently your wife was promoted she went to heaven, and you have not been speaking. Recently you spoke for the very first time since she was promoted and tell me about that time.
Bill: That was really awesome because it was when she was seriously ill, and then after she died I was just not getting any revelation, I was a sick puppy going around, and really really down. The Lord took this severe pain away from me after he memorial service, but I still wasn’t receiving anything. Then I went and accepted an invitation to a church for June 10th, and 10 days before that I was in prayer at my grandson’s home, early in the morning I had stayed overnight with him. The Lord gave me revelation that just woke me up and brought back energy into my life. Then at that service when I gave that word I really came to life and had more energy, more vitality than I had in years. It’s just awesome what the Lord has done.
Sid: Now both you and your wife are prophets, but had you ever prophesied to the degree you prophesied at that meeting before?
Bill: Not to that degree. I had prophesied quite a bit and some long times, but had been totally wrung out when I finished. After that service I prophesied over everyone in the church prophesied for 2½ hours and was still on my feet with my boot on ready to go, and full of energy. It was astonishing to me. The words that He gave there were several people that needed deliverance and the Lord just brought them set them free right on the spot.
Sid: Just out of curiosity has God given you anything prophetic for this week of interviews?
Bill: Yes. He’s telling me to tell you and our listeners “Get ready, get ready because My Spirit is coming forth now, and I am returning My people to their roots. I’m bringing in those that are grafted in and I want everyone to be ready for change. And the pastors that are coming in, there are many pastors now many more than in the past where it was mostly just congregants that were getting the desire for Jewish roots, but now pastors are crying out and saying “I want truth, I want truth” and their getting it from reading the word. Their getting it and they’re coming in, they are transforming lives, transforming old congregations coming into an understanding of the Jewish roots and going back to the Hebrew Scriptures to see what they need to do, and how they need to do it. It’s My desire that My people be ready and to know that these changes are coming. Sid you’re gonna change too not to in any way to back off of your anointing for evangelism, but to increase an anointing for bringing and leading pastors, and teaching pastors on Jewish roots. That you’re now, that’s an apostolic mission that’s being added to your evangelism. So get ready, get ready here it comes.”
Sid: Well I’m ready Bill. Let’s do a little right now. Do a little teaching say from the 2nd chapter of the book of Acts from your “Power New Testament.”
Bill: Okay I like that because it’s often mistranslated, misunderstood. Start with the first verse “When the day of Shavuot, Pentecost, had come they were all in one place together. And a sound came suddenly out of heaven as bringing a violent wind and it filled the whole House where they were sitting and dividing tongues like fire were seen by them and the flames sat upon each one of them, and all were filled by the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other languages just as the Spirit was giving them to speak out bodly.” See where they were sitting was on Solomon’s Porch at the temple because in a home to get way over a 100 people sitting in one room is just not realistic. Luke also calls the house the temple, the temple, I mean Luke calls the house and he does in Luke 11:51 he refers to the temple as a house.
Sid: So where did we get it that they were in the upper room?
Bill: Because everyone assumes that a house is a room. (Laughing) It is just a regular house, but they were at the temple. The temple Solomon’s porch was where any group could meet and it would hold hundreds of people. See the people would be seated on the steps and the speaker would be standing below them so the sound would carry upward and you could speak to a very large group without any sound equipment, with no amplification, just the natural air currents.
Sid: Why don’t you flip now to say the 3rd chapter of Acts and comment as you do in your “Power New Testament” on Peter’s statement.
Bill: Okay Acts 3:19 “Therefore you must immediately repent and you must return to God at once for your sins to be wiped out.”
Sid: That’s where that punch comes in Mishpochah in this translation. Have you ever heard a translation like that before? Go ahead Bill.
Bill: And to be “wiped out” is from a Greek word that means obliterated or removed. The word was used for the process that dissolved the ink on a parchment so the parchment could be used again. It’s a parallel to Isaiah 11:25 where God says “He’s the God who erases rebellious sins.” So when God forgives you your sin is totally removed it never happened, it never happened. Satan might have it in his record, but God doesn’t have it on His.
Do angels exist? Are healing miracles real? Is there life after death? Can people get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth has spent twenty-five years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of, “It’s Supernatural.”
SID: Hello Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest Larry Randolph just provokes me to jealousy; he comes from three generations of prophets, people that knew things. As a matter of fact get this, Larry saw a newspaper headlines for the next seven years, can you imagine having that kind of information? I mean he saw it now, for what’s going to be happening in the future. Larry, you really provoke me to jealousy, but let’s go back to your grandfather, what was he like?
LARRY: Well actually, it even goes beyond that. I have a great, great uncle Newton who was a blind healer and he did miracles, blind eyes, blind people were healed, and then of course my grandfather also had a very strong prophetic gifting and ministry gift and pastoral gift, as well as my father. He had an extraordinary word of knowledge and a passion for Jesus and a healing gift that was unusual.
SID: Just out of curiosity, as a young person, I saw pictures of you preaching at a young, how old were you?
LARRY: Yes, six years old.
SID: Six years old, they start early in the family. What kind of memory do you have of your father’s word of knowledge being activated?
LARRY: Yes, I my memory goes all the way back as far as I remember, my first memories of life was under a church pew, and hearing my father preach. But my father did have an extraordinary prophetic gift, he knew things, and one thing he would know for instance, was whenever people came to the church for the first time on occasion he would know their names, he would know their situations.
SID: Would he know their full name?
LARRY: No, usually just their first name sometimes.
SID: That’s pretty good.
LARRY: That’s pretty good, and he would tell me about it. Next Sunday Barbara’s coming, she has a problem, we need to pray for her, she is going, wants to take her life. And the next Sunday there would be a lady, a new lady and what’s your name, Barbara, you know what is your problem, that would be her problem. So I grew up in that environment and I thought it was normal, I thought everybody did that.
SID: You know what, if everyone grew up in that environment it would be normal, everyone would be doing that, but you also had a mentor that sounds fascinating to me, I wish I had known him, tell me about him.
LARRY: His name was Robert Mitchell. Robert was an extraordinary dear man, I miss him today. He was born in the 1890′s, he had been involved with Smith Wigglesworth, and all through the reformation of the Pentecostal movement in the 20′s and Azusa and on up through A.A. Allen, Branham, other names that a lot of your guests may not know about, but it was important to him.
And met the Lord, in his later years of life became a missionary, went completely blind when he as in his 50′s for five years totally blind, but in the process of blindness his wife read the Bible to him every day for five years and he memorized every word in the Bible. And in addition to just being a walking Bible, he had also had a gift of healing and a prophetic gift that was incredible, he too would know when people were coming to his house, sometimes he would know who they were, and then he would tell them and there would be a tremendous healing.
SID: So Larry, as a normal person being raised with a heritage like that, do you know people’s names sometimes?
SID: Tell me one meeting.
LARRY: Well recently I was in Minneapolis doing a conference and a person I guess spoke and I had a dream about a man named John that I gave a prophetic word to, I prophesied over about his destiny, I saw him in the dream, so the next night when I spoke, there was probably 1200 people in the meeting so it was hard to find him, to see his face, but I walked through the middle of the auditorium in my ministry time, and I saw him on my left, the same man that was in the dream, and I stood him up and talked to him about his destiny, he was very surprised and also the Lord had told me, I believe, his grandfathers name as well, and I talked to him I believe his grandfather was William, if I’m getting it right, and he was absolutely ministered to in an incredible way, that God would speak to him and know him by name and know who he is and what he was, so that’s one of numerous examples that happens in meetings.
SID: The thing that I really appreciate about Larry is it’s contagious, just as he hung around these family members and it was normal for him, well he has written a book, and as a matter of fact,
I learned something so fantastic from his book. Larry, you have a chapter there called “Broken Receivers”, explain that.
LARRY: Yes, in a nutshell a broken receiver is actually, as I said, began in the Garden of Eden. It was in the Garden of Eden that the Creator, God created Adam and Eve, and it was just incredible communication. the scripture said that He walked and talked with Adam and Eve, and because of the fall of Adam and Eve there was this disconnect, Adam and Eve were disenfranchised from the voice of the Lord, and so they lost that sweet communion, that talk, that fellowship with God in the Garden you know for centuries and centuries and centuries, which of course is being reestablished through Jesus and he is the connector to that broken receiver, that why he’s called the word of God.
SID: Is there another way to connect with the same intimacy that Adam and Eve had in the Garden of Eden we read about besides Jesus?
LARRY: There is no other way to regain, he is the only way, he is the voice, he is the express image of the Father is what the Bible says, and he is the door, he himself said I am the door.
Said: Okay, when things are connected, this is the thing that is so fascinating about your book. I think in terms, I’m connected, I know Jesus, when you’re connected though, we expect God to speak like the movie about Moses, Charlton Heston in a booming voice, “This is God speaking to you.” Then I say, yes sir. But – and he does that sometimes, but he speaks in so many different ways that you have been able to identify. Tell me one.
LARRY: I’ll give you one, most people have this one and they don’t know it is God talking to them. Impressions, and what I mean by impressions, there is a feeling, an intuition, a perceptiveness, a gut feeling, I know you’ve had it where you go, there is that faint feeling that you know something, you feel something, but you aren’t sure, and you go, oh that was just me, and a week later you find out that was absolutely correct, that was true. And God speaks to us through our spirit, and through our soul and slight impressions, and nudges us.
SID: Why is it that we don’t watch out when we have those slight impressions?
LARRY: Because we don’t trust and believe that is God talking to us .
SID: Okay, from now on we are going to trust and believe that it is God speaking to us, don’t go away, because we are going to find out about a visitation that he had with Jesus, don’t go away.