SID: Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Sandy Teplinsky. And Sandy, just before the break, I said there is a new type of anti-Semitism that is moving so strongly, it’s scary. Explain.
SANDY: The new anti-Semitism, as it’s called by the Jewish community, not just the Messianic Jewish community, refers to the fact that historically, as you know, the Jewish people have been persecuted and victimized by anti-Semitism. Which by the way is just the flip side of the spirit of antichrist, they are both anti-God. In whatever nations the Jewish people lived, they were hunted down, they were persecuted; they were killed. Now that there is an established state of Israel, the anti-Semitism is today being cloaked in a thin veneer and allegedly politically correctly being called anti-Zionism or anti-Israelism or anti-Israeli policies. Now we’re not saying that to disagree with Israel is tantamount to being anti-Semitic, that’s not the case at all. But what we are saying is that around the globe, and particularly in Western Europe, we’re finding that there is such an across the board disdain and castigation of the nation of Israel; and an equating of Israel with Nazism of all things.
SID: You know, it is not a natural phenomenon Sandy.
SANDY: No.
SID: I mean we’re both fairly logical type thinkers. This isn’t a logical thing that is going on right now, especially as you point out even from a historical viewpoint who should have that land. But beyond historical, what is God’s position? And how dangerous it is for a Christian to be on the wrong side of the fence, but it’s like fuel going into a fire from a supernatural origin.
SANDY: Absolutely. Anti-Semitism, or the hatred of the Jewish people, is ultimately demonic in nature. And I tell you, the enemy is fighting very hard right now to destroy and annihilate Israel through fanatical Islam and the Palestinian conflict. For several reasons, but one prime reason is that he knows, the devil knows, that if he can annihilate Israel and destroy the Jews that he can so he thinks, thwart the return of the Lord Yeshua. Because the scriptures tell us that it is to a Jewish city and a Jewish homeland, that Jesus will return.
SID: Well in your book you say how the Jewish nation is key to unleashing God’s blessings in the 21st century but there is a flipside to that, and that is the curses. How dangerous is it for a Christian to be involved in something like replacement theology, where they believe the church has replaced Israel, the church has all the promises, Israel has all the curses; how dangerous is that?
SANDY: Well it’s extremely dangerous. First of all we can go back to Genesis 12:3 in which God says I will curse those who curse the descendents of Israel. We can go to the book of Obadiah who says in verse 15 “As you have treated Israel, so will God treat you.” And we can go to Romans 11 where the apostle Paul, under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, specifically addresses replacement theology and he says in verse 1 “Has God rejected the Jews? No.” And then he goes on to say in verse 12 that those who are conceited towards the Jews, or arrogant, they themselves stand the chance of having their own life in Christ cut off. He continues that in verse 20. And so he is warning us, in fact he says, Paul specifically says he does not want us to be ignorant. And he says that less than a handful of times in all the scriptures. He is warning us. He says don’t be ignorant, that God has not forsaken the Jewish people, that those who believe He has stand to have their own faith cut off, and that there is only a hardening in part on Israel, until the fullness, the full maturity, Messiah-likeness of the gentiles comes in.
SID: Flipside. What’s in it if someone is a blessing to the Jew and Israel?
SANDY: If somebody blesses the Jewish people, and we go into it in much more detail in our book, but bottom line, you get more of Jesus. Now all over the world we hear people saying “I want more of God, more of the Holy Spirit, more of Jesus.”
SID: You know Sandy, I’m reminded of the young Jewish girl Sandy, that said I want to know God. I want to know Him. Now she says I want to have more and more each day, I want to have more of God. And the key to intimacy with God is following God’s Word. God says “I want obedience, not sacrifice.” And Sandy is saying her intimacy is increasing by her love for the Jewish people, and to see the Jewish people in place, so that the gentile people can be in place, so the whole world can be in place, so that Jesus can return. How about you? It goes right down to you personally. Do you want to know God? It’s not an accident that you’re watching us right now. The same God that loves Sandy, the same God that loves me, died for you. And you may not understand everything I’m explaining to you right now, but understand this: you are special, you have purpose, there is destiny on your life, and knowing God is way beyond going to a church on Sunday or a Messianic Jewish congregation on Saturday. There is an intimacy that God wants to have with you. It is vital that you hear God’s voice. It is vital that you experience His love. There is a portion of you that has never experienced loved, has never experienced true peace, I mean peace that is so tangible you reach out and touch it. I have. Sandy has. Because first of all we recognized that we’re sinners. We recognize that we have done many things wrong. The 10 Commandments you can’t see in a public school but you know what they are and we’ve all violated them. If we go to God and say God, I’m sorry. Please forgive me. I believe that the blood of Jesus washes away my sins and I am clean. And now that I am clean, I boldly proclaim that Jesus is my Messiah and Lord. Come inside of me, become real to me. And if you reach out for God, from that invisible realm God will reach out to you. It has never been easier in the history of the world. Why? Because God is drawing closer to planet Earth! It is vital. Now – now is the day of your salvation. Don’t wait one second more. Get right with God.
SID: Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Sandy Teplinsky. Before we go back with Sandy, one of the things I see beyond reading the words of Jesus, and I don’t see how anyone could read the words of Jesus, Jewish person, Muslim person, anyone could read His words, without having their heart pierced with this amazing, and that’s the only word I can come up with, amazing love. But the major way that Jewish people are coming to know the Messiah of Israel is through the supernatural. I want you to look at a video clip of Gari Goldburg DiStephano who is a Jewish woman that certainly did not believe in Jesus; that was healed of over 30 incurable diseases. Let’s take a look now.
Gari: My name is Gari Goldburg DiStephano, I grew up in Long Island New York, and I led a pretty active life involving a lot of sports. In July of 1983 I survived a horrific car crash. I was broken in half from my neck down; the entire right side of my body broke over the steering wheel, I lost all the cartilage in both knees and was horizontal for the next two years. When the car stopped, I was trapped inside the car which was on fire and I have no explanation except for God and adrenaline for how I got out of the car. I spent the next two years trying to get vertical, moved down to Florida where I thought heat would be better for me. Of course humidity was quite painful. And God kept sending people into my path to talk to me about this Jewish guy named Jesus. And I really didn’t want to have anything to do with this guy. I’m Jewish, I’m from New York, I was in a lot of pain, and I kept telling him I have a weapon and I’ll hurt them if they don’t stop talking to me. They did not stop talking to me but it really wasn’t doing anything for my pain. Two men in particular, one Greek and one half Jewish, half Italian named Peter, gave me a Bible which I read. And again, nothing was helping my pain. 8 and 1/2 years after the accident I herniated a disc which paralyzed the left side of my body and basically I was out of luck. My plan was to end my life and I looked at my gun and I realized I am such a klutz. If I shoot myself I’ll still be here and in worse shape than I already was. And so I decided to pray. And these people had been trying to get me to say a prayer that basically said that Jesus died for me, rose again, and was living. And this concept of a living God was very alien to my Jewish heart. I knew there was a God, Jehovah God, the big God, and He lived in the temple. And if you didn’t go to that building, you didn’t really have to deal with Him. So it was hard for me to agree to say that particular prayer because it would have been a lie and if he really was God, that would not be a good way to curry favor. So this is the prayer I said: I said “Jesus, if you are really God like they tell me, then you know what I’m going to do.” “So instead of me doing it, you do it. I give my life to you, do with it what you will. Amen” As soon as I said amen, a hand took my shoulder, lifted me straight up off the floor, a surge of energy came through me, a sack filled with demons came out of my neck, disappeared into the air, and hallelujah, 39 things God healed in an instant.
SID: You know, a new phenomenon is going on. What happened to Gari is happening to people all over the world. Not just Jewish people. In fact I have good news for you: you don’t have to be Jewish to believe in Jesus. God so loves the whole world. But I believe that many of you have had miracles, and you certainly have a little video camera at home. Why not talk just like Gari did right now of what God did, what miracle He did, two, three minutes. Send it to us, we’ll check it out, and if it’s legitimate we’ll put it on the air. And I want to prove a point: that God is working throughout the entire earth right now. Not in superstars but through the superstar. The superstar is Jesus. The superstar is Jesus. I have Sandy Teplinsky here right now and I am overwhelmed with that testimony that we just saw. But I’m also overwhelmed with an experience that you had involving Israel. Tell me about that time that you felt what God feels about the nation Israel.
SANDY: This was about, oh almost 25 years ago, and it was long before I was acquainted with supernatural phenomena. And I was just merely going about my business, cleaning my house, worshipping God, singing, cleaning my house. And suddenly a great sense of anguish enveloped me like I’d never experienced before. When I think of it, the best way that I could describe it would be to call it very sad garbage. And it was if it enveloped me and broke my heart. Now I am a former attorney so while this was happening I was analyzing this and I was thinking perhaps I am having a nervous breakdown. This is something I have no grid for. But within seconds the Lord’s presence overshadowed all that and He spoke very clearly to my heart and said “This is how I feel about My people Israel.” And what I experienced was the Lord’s heart ache and heartbreak and His grieving and His beholding of our sin, and yet the everlasting love of a Father, who’s arms nonetheless uphold His errant children, but who grieves and who pants for the return of those children. And so I fell to the floor under the weight of it and started wailing. Now at this point I really thought I might be having a nervous breakdown and I remember stuffing a pillow into my mouth because of the wails…
SID: Oh wow.
SANDY: …thinking that my neighbors could well call the police. I did not understand then what many of us know now, is that the Holy Spirit can deposit a supernatural intercessory burden like that so that we can stand in the gap. The scriptures say that God looks for someone to stand in the gap, to pray on behalf of Israel, or the nations, or both; to mediate God’s mercy. And so that was really the beginning of a change in me that resulted, I believe, from a deposit of God’s heart. And of course over the years the Lord has added to that and brought revelation and so on.
SID: The bottom line, Sandy, is you wrote a book called “Why Care About Israel?” and that’s a passion for you.
SANDY: It is.
SID: Why care about Israel?
SANDY: It’s a passion for me Sid because, bottom line, it’s a passion for God. I have a passion for God. We’ve known each other for years and our paths have crossed in our mutual pursuit of God. God is passionate for Israel. He makes it very clear in the Word that that passion is everlasting. Beginning with Genesis 12:3 He says that He will bless those who bless Israel, meaning the lineal, physical descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and He will curse those who curse them, and of course we go into much more detail on that in the book. And so the lives of believers today, I’m not just speaking to Jews but to gentile believers, are effected to the extent that they choose to bless or curse Israel. Now that principle, that Biblical principle, is not passé. What we need to understand, what the church needs to understand in this hour, is that those same principles apply to us today, and even increasingly more so as we find ourselves at odds with a global mounting anti-Semitism.
SID: Hold that thought. Let me tell you something: there’s a new type of anti-Semitism on the scene. You must understand. We’ll be right back after this word.
SID: Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Sandy Teplinsky. Sandy, you experienced at a young age, as a young Jewish girl, a lot of anti-Semitism. Here in America, you think of a little, but you don’t think of a lot.
SANDY: Not typically. I grew up in a neighborhood that was overtly anti-Semitic. We lived not far from former Nazi headquarters in the city of Chicago of all places. And so just as a kid, I grew up having to defend myself physically. I would be beat up on playgrounds and learned to fight back very quickly, and maybe in some instances a little bit too effectively. But underlying all of that was a driving knowledge to know the God that I was fighting for, so to speak.
SID: Now what type of synagogue did you go to?
SANDY: It was very religious. You could call it orthodox.
SID: Did you like the synagogue?
SANDY: I did. I found great comfort there. I can’t remember a time not believing in God. And I, as a result of that, soon grew disillusioned by the time I, right about that midst of time because I wanted so much, with all of my heart, to love the Lord with all of my heart as our scriptures command, as our cornerstone prayer in Judaism commands us to love God with all of our heart, mind, soul, and strength. And I saw no one, not even the devout rabbi, who did. And so I embarked on a search to be able to find out how I could love this God.
SID: You know that is so amazing! Before we started the show I told you this, we’re both Jewish, we both come from traditional Jewish backgrounds, but for me, I couldn’t wait to get out of the synagogue and God wasn’t even in my thoughts. And as far as personally knowing him like Moses did and David did, I didn’t even give a thought to that. So would you say you were obsessed with knowing God?
SANDY: I was a little bit obsessed. In fact Sid, I became very upset I could not know God the same way Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob did. Nor did I see anybody who did and I remember asking questions of my parents and the rabbis and nobody had an answer for me. It was simply “God doesn’t relate to people like that anymore.” But something in me wouldn’t settle for that.
SID: Ok, you get to college and now you find a different style of anti-Semitism. It’s not having to fight with your fists fortunately. It’s a little more sophisticated. Tell me about it.
SANDY: Well it was called evangelism in my mind. The people that were out selling their spiritual wares, so to speak, back in the 70’s when I went to college, saw me as ripe pickings I think. And the Christian campus evangelists, who were out there, to my perception, assaulted me with their tracts and with their Gospel witness.
SID: Why didn’t you do what most Jewish people do and they say “I’m Jewish; I’m not interested. Good riddance”?
SANDY: I did. I did.
SID: So that should have been it.
SANDY: Well that should have been it except that I was so perturbed over this continual harassment of Jesus in my life. Now remember I grew up post-Holocaust era and one thing we didn’t talk about is that I was just simply barraged with instructions from the synagogue “You must never let Christians take your faith away, you must never let Christians harm the Jews again. Never again;” and so I viewed this as an opportunity to fight fire with fire; to disprove the Gospel; to disprove this ridiculous allegation of a virgin birth. And so I went and bought myself a New Testament, read it for the first time, I was all set to write out the arguments against it, I was in school by the way studying to be an attorney, and to my shock, I found that the words that I read in the New Testament, when I read it for myself, and thought for myself, were filled with a power and a love like I had never experienced in any of my other religious studies or pursuits as I dabbled in different Eastern religions. And so I read the New Testament on my own, from cover to cover, I researched back into the Old Testament prophecies, which I knew enough of from my many years of Hebrew training, and it became very clear to me that this Jesus, or Yeshua in Hebrew as we now call Him, is indeed the promised Messiah of Israel.
SID: Yes, but if a rabbi heard about this, he’d say “Sandy you’re no longer a Jew.” Now that’s important for you to be Jewish isn’t it?
SANDY: Well you know Sid, I’ve come to the place where it is important to me to be Jewish, it’s very important. But what’s more important to me is not what people call me. I mean the Bible says that if we’re more concerned with what other people think of us, then we’re not a Jew. A Jew is one who is concerned with the praises and exaltation of God.
SID: Do you know God?
SANDY: Yes I do.
SID: Do you remember that young girl that had a heart to know God and couldn’t find anyone in the synagogue that really had intimacy with God? She has it now and what she has found out, you must know. Your very life is dependent on it. We’ll be right back after this word.
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Bruce Allen. Bruce, tell me about the time, and I’m sure this has happened many times, that you were caught up into Heaven and you saw someone you knew.
Bruce. Yes, Sid, that was unusual. I was in a season of prayer and just worshipping God, and suddenly I was in Heaven, paradise. And there was great activity going on like bustling. I don’t know how to describe that, almost like Christmas in a mall. And all of a sudden–
SID: Almost like all the activity is going on because the holiday or the events about ready to happen you have to get everything in place, so there’s a lot of activity going on in Heaven.
BRUCE: Lots of activity, yeah. And my aunt, who had died about seven years previously to that, walked up and she was all excited. She said, “Bruce, it is so exciting.” And I said, “What’s so exciting?” She said, “The preparation for the marriage supper of the lamb is almost complete.” And Heaven is abuzz with this news and excited because it’s the culmination, the completion. And she said, “And not only that. Many individuals are visiting Heaven from Earth right now to go back with the testimony that people should be prepared because he’s coming back shortly.”
SID: You know that’s the message I’m hearing from many people, that he’s coming back soon. But the thing that’s so unusual is even children are carrying this message back.
BRUCE: Oh yeah. There was a young girl in Singapore that had been in one of our meetings where we were teaching your birthright is to see and go as a Christian, and she caught the revelation and began to caught into the paradise. And that particular time I was visiting I saw my aunt at that time. I saw this young girl, she was eight years old, appear off to my left. She looked at me, smiled and waved, grabbed the hand of Jesus and skipped off with him. A year later, Sid, I’m back in Singapore and happen to have dinner with the grandmother and she was there, and she said, “I saw you in Heaven and you were talking to your aunt.” She knew.
SID: Now that really blows some of you out of the water. But read the Book of Revelation. Read these visions that people have had, that Paul had. Tell me about this congregation in Malaysia.
BRUCE: On that same visitation with my aunt I saw an angel off to my right standing in Heaven with what looked like a Torah scroll, but I came to understand was a manifest. He was the angel that had charge and authority over all the resources of Heaven that God had reserved for this generation. So I was ministering in Koala Lumpur in a church, and they were in a building program for a new church. And while I was ministering–
SID: By the way, that’s a good angel to know.
BRUCE: Oh yeah.
SID: All the resources for this generation.
BRUCE: He appeared in the meeting. I saw him there and began to prophecy that, as believers we have that manifest, you know, how we activate it. We speak it forth in faith and it comes immediately. And so as we prophesied they were taking pictures. They had learned to do that because cameras catch a lot of things and they caught the picture of that scroll exactly where I saw the angel standing. And so needless to say, I was excited about that. It’s one thing to have visions and people believe you. But God gave a tangible proof and evidence of that happening.
SID: This is so amazing. It’s Hebrew lettering. So a year later what happened to this congregation?
BRUCE: They built that church. I don’t know if was within the year, but within two years, I know for a fact. God supernaturally and sovereignly would bring in the resources consistently as they needed it. Sometimes the bank account would be empty. There was the money. It would show up. Sometimes they didn’t even know how. Other times people would give large sums of money. And so they built that church very quickly with no debt, and there was a lot of extra money left over in the church.
SID: Now has God shown you anything that’s going to happen in Israel?
BRUCE: Israel got me excited right now.
SID: I could tell.
BRUCE: Because there’s about to be a strategic move of God, very prophetic, and we’re about to see the reaping of the harvest of Jewish folds into the Kingdom. They’re gonna begin to realize who Messiah really is, and it’s gonna, a lot of it’s happening sovereignly and supernaturally as Jesus appears to them. But there’s going to be a supernatural event that God has been showing me that I’ve been feeling in my spirit where the signs and the wonders of the supernatural creative miracles are gonna be seen and experienced by multitudes there.
SID: Now is it almost, and I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but it’s almost like this explosion of God’s power, supernatural, is going to just like it started in Israel. The explosion is gonna come from Israel one more time that will really have repercussions all over the world.
BRUCE: Absolutely. The church started with the body of believers in Israel. We’re gonna see the climax, the culmination, the fulfillment of the words of the seventh day. Every word He spoke over Israel over the church, the first church, we’ll see its fulfillment beginning in Israel and then throughout the world.
SID: Now when you speak many times whole groups are caught away in the spirit.
BRUCE: Yes, we’ve had that happen times as we teach the truth that it belongs to every believer, not just the mystical few.
SID: Okay. I promised our viewers that you would pray for them. Would you do that, Bruce, now?
BRUCE: I would be happy to. Lord, I pray right now for every person hearing the sound of my voice, Lord that you would activate within them their birthright to see and to go in the realm of the spirit. Just as Jesus said, “I only do what I see the Father doing,” so as a believer that can do the very works that Jesus did, according to John 14:12, that’s our birthright. So Father, I pray an activation of that, a release of that, and I thank you, Father. Even now people’s eyes are being open. They’re beginning to see. They’re beginning to hear. So I’m gonna make a declaration boldly. I command eyes to be open, ears to be open, and hearts to understand the will of God right now in Jesus’ name.
SID: Well I don’t know about you, but I sure feel the presence. It’s almost like a mantle. In fact, when you prayer for people they get mantles of new anointings, I understand.
BRUCE: We’ve seen that on a number of occasions, I think three or four, where behind every individual in a meeting, I’ve seen an angel come with a new mantle. And I have to provoke them out of their comfort zone. They stand up and as a prophetic gesture put on the mantle.
SID: What might this mantle be for an individual?
BRUCE: It speaks of their destiny, their calling and the gifting of God being activated in their life, and again, the covenant promise being fulfilled. Most Christians don’t understand that as a born-again believer they have a commission in the calling of God. Most sit on their blessed assurance just waiting for the return of–
SID: Listen, when people read your book, Bruce, it’s going to activate their faith to walk into this beginning of the seventh day where everything, all the promises of God will be speeding up. But you heard Bruce talk about a wedding, a Jewish wedding, and all the activity in Heaven that’s going on right now, because there are plans for the wedding. Now the question I have for you, do you have an invitation to this wedding? Well I want to personally give you an invitation. The invitation is you must repent of your sins, believe that Jesus died in your place and his blood washes away your sins so that you have a fresh beginning and you’re a virgin in God’s sight. You’re clean. The Bible uses a term, “You’re righteous.” You’re as righteous as Jesus in God’s sight. If you boldly proclaim, do it right now. Say, “Jesus is my Lord and I repent. I turn from my sins. With your power, Lord, I’m gonna do better. Live inside of me. Be my Lord, Jesus, now.”
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Bruce Allen. And Bruce just said during the commercial break to me angels show up all the time and do outstanding things. Tell me again about what happened in Ireland.
BRUCE: This was in Belfast, Northern Ireland, about four years ago now. This was a leadership training for a ministry over there. This woman came in. Her name was Sharon Morrison. And we were teaching on the Christian’s birthright to be able to see clearly in the realm of the spirit. She was a little bit dubious. But when she came up for a prayer she came up and asked for a prayer for heart. She said, “I have had this heart condition for a number of years. I’m on medicine.” She said, “I don’t want a healed heart. I don’t want something that’s a refit. I want a new heart.” And I said, “Okay. God can do that.” And so as I stood there for a minute dialoging with the Lord and asked Him how to pray, I saw out of the corner of my right eye an angel walk into the room and he had a platter, a silver platter he was holding, and on that platter was a beating brand new heart. Well she saw me glance to the right, and so she looked and she was terrified. I mean, in Godly terror. Her eyes got as big as saucers and she closed them tightly. And I started laughing. I said, “Oh, you saw him, too.” And she didn’t speak again. The angel walked up and stood between us, so I backed up a step. It took the heart off the platter, put it into her chest and she said afterwards she felt his hand. Her heart stopped for one beat and she felt it moving in there, because she was squirming. And then I saw the angel reach lower and I thought, she didn’t tell me about that need. What had happened is he healed an abdominal situation as well at the same time.
SID: Now how did you know this?
BRUCE: She told me the story afterwards.
SID: Okay.
BRUCE: I saw what was taking place. But what she did after that experience, she didn’t say another word. I said, “Well we don’t have to pray. We’ll agree with what we saw the Lord doing.” She said, “Yes” and sat down. She went home that night and she threw out her heart medication, and she cooked something she hadn’t been able to eat in years because of the problem. She slept soundly for the first time in years. When she went back to the doctor she had a regular check-up for this heart condition. The doctor was astounded. He said, “What have you been doing? Your heart’s like new.” And she told the doctor what happened, and that’s when the doctor almost had a cardiac arrest. “Did you have withdrawal symptoms?” She said, “None.” And the doctor just threw up her hands and said, “Whatever you’re doing keep doing it.”
SID: So do you see people getting new body parts often like this?
BRUCE: I do.
SID: What happened in Singapore?
BRUCE: Singapore was a little bit different. We were ministering at a church and this lady who had invited us to minister at this youth group was there, and after we ministered to the youth and prayed for them, she said, “I want prayer, too.” She said, “But I’m not gonna name anything.” Well I knew from an acquaintance what was going on, but I asked the Lord, “What do you want me to do?” He said, “I just want you to take the sword of the spirit and pierce her heart.” Now that sounds a little bit strange.
SID: It’s like a prophetic act.
BRUCE: It was a prophetic act. So when he says things like that I just do it. It looks foolish to man.
SID: Listen, you get those kind of results, go for it.
BRUCE: Absolutely. And so I did that. When I did that she fell down, and what happened is the power of God touched her body which caused it to short circuit. She fell down. When she got up she said, “Oh that was great, super.” We found out afterwards via the friend that new her that the brain cancer was gone.
SID: That is so phenomenal. Now we talked about the seventh day that the promises are going to speed up. But what I think of the seventh of day or the Sabbath I think of rest. What does that mean to us practically if we’re entering the morning of rest?
BRUCE: I’m glad you asked that. The day of rest speaks of ceasing from our own works, just as God did from His. That’s in Hebrews. What that says is that we have to learn to be led of the spirit and stop being led of a program or a formula. Those things at the worst can lead to stagnation and witchcraft, but at best will cause people to just get stuck in a rut. But if we learn to be at rest by doing what he says to do when he says to do it, how he says to do it, we will see an acceleration and the fulfillment of all of these promises and we’ll see greater creative miracles, signs and wonders.
SID: It seems to me when the Messiah says over and over again, “Fear not” or “Be at peace” that there is a supernatural, this is what I’ve been pondering lately, there’s a supernatural place and it’s called peace, and we can walk into that place. And is that not the morning of the seventh day rest that you’ve been talking about?
BRUCE: Absolutely. That’s a facet of it. Rest and peace are a little bit different. But on the whole that is exactly what God is saying. The more you trust somebody, the more peace and rest you have around that person. So the seventh day also speaks of a tremendous revelation of intimacy with God. We’re coming into that place of such intimacy with God. The things of this life pale in comparison when you’ve seen the Lord. And when you see what He’s prepared for us in that realm you’re not worried about looking foolish to man. You’re not worried about pleasing man. You’re not worried about reputation. You’re doing this because you love God, because you have an audience of one.
SID: You know, I’m thinking of the scripture that says, “Yet once more I’m going to shake this earth,” and those that are not on a firm foundation when it shakes guess what happens? You’re going to fall. However, those that have entered into that morning of the seventh day rest, they’re gonna literally be in a euphoric state of peace and intimacy with God. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
BRUCE: It’s a bastion of peace. I like to provoke people this way. The worst the world can do is threaten us with heaven. So it’s win-win.
SID: Okay. Are you ready to win-win? Me, too. Don’t go away. You’re going to find out. As a matter of fact I’m going to ask Bruce to pray for you when we come back. We’ll be back right after this.