Sid: My guest this week is Nita Johnson I’m speaking to her at her home in Fresno, California she’s a prophetess, she’s the Leader of World for Jesus Ministries. And she has received dreams and visions from God just as a little child about the last days in America. And on yesterday’s broadcast we were talking to a really momentous about a very historic event it was a special celebration for the survivors of the ship St. Louis held in Ottawa, Canada. And there were only about 70 that survived of almost 1000 Jews that Hitler was ready to kill the gas ovens and they got on the ship St. Louis and they went to the nations of the world. And the nations of the world said “We don’t want these Jews” and most of them went back and died. And so only a handful of them survived and this was a special celebration, repentance just wanting to share love with the survivors by the Christian Community especially in Canada. It sounded like it was a wonderful event Nita but during this time that you were speaking in churches up in Canada you had quickened to you a dream that you had many years ago. Tell me about it.
Nita: Actually it wasn’t a dream it was an experience that I had when I was 9 years old I talk about it in the end of my book “Prepare for the Winds of Change” where I was taken up. I was outside playing and suddenly found myself out of the natural and into the spiritual and running up this long corridor into heaven and into the throne room of Messiah being led by a very large and powerful angel. When once I was up in the throne room I saw:
#1 I immediately buried because it was so traumatic to me so I couldn’t cope with it.
The 2nd I had remembered and so all of the years 40 years now I have prayed “Please help me remember what it was that I saw that I buried because of this trauma.”
When I was up in Canada we were dealing with this whole issue of the Jewish people and the holocaust. And so the Lord chose that time to re-reveal to me in a vision what I had seen what I had seen when I was 9 years old. And what I saw up there in the throne room of the Lord was every holocaust that has ever come against the Jewish people since the days of Egypt. The days of Egypt speaking about what was revealed to us even in the bible the fact that they were making the nations slaves. Well there were brutal beatings and many murders took place during that time the Bible doesn’t really give us a lot of information on. And then clear up to modern day the holocaust that took place under Hitler, the Russian Pogroms, the Spanish Inquisition, all of the attempts of humanity to destroy the Jewish population I saw one by one. And after I saw all of those holocausts I saw God’s response of the holocaust which was the outpouring of His wrath upon the nations of the world. Not only for the rejection of Messiah but because of their rejection to his prophet the Jewish people down through the centuries that was very very traumatic for me to see even the 2nd time I can’t tell you how traumatic it was it’s very difficult it’s very painful because I didn’t see the words Egyptian holocaust. What I saw was a knowledge that this was the particular holocaust that I was seeing but what I saw was seeing was the beatings, I saw the murders, I saw everything that took place against the Jewish people. I felt their hearts, their fears, their anguish, their cries, and I felt the Father’s heart His pain over what was taking place.
Sid: So why do you believe the Lord quickened that to you of what happened so many years ago as a child?
Nita: I think because one of the things that transpired was the St. Louis Ship is after being rejected by Cuba and Canada, America and Canada. They kind of moved around in the ocean the total trip was about 40 days Sid and 40 nights. And I feel that whole time the Lord was looking at the nations of the world and He was judging by our response to that ship the same kind of dynamics under Noah who also floated on the water 40 days and 40 nights. So we are as nations reaping the fruit of the seed we sowed of anti-Semitism and this fruit has come forth in judgment that God has poured out upon the nations. You mentioned earlier all the things that Cuba has gone through since rejecting the Jews. It seems that America has gone through things that Canada has gone through. Things that nations throughout the world have incurred against themselves by the hand of the Lord in response to what we did over the Jewish people during that Hitler holocaust. And so were coming now down to a time where we’re coming into virtually the very consummation of human history. And the Lord wants us to know, and by the way after having seen this experience the second time I did a diligent search through the scriptures that I found that there are many scriptures that deal with this. This issue of God seeming to stay silent as the nations of the world came against his people. And in the last days he would rise up and pour out His wrath upon the nations of the world for their rejection of Israel. And so it stood up scripturally and we’re coming down right to that time when this is going to begin to occur at a phenomenal rate. And I feel that the Lord is at least speaking to my heart to warn the nations of the world that we have got to change our heart and repent toward our indifference toward our apathy and even our hatred of the Jewish people and the nation of Israel. And to the degree that we do that He will begin to bless us. Now Canada having done all that the Lord has asked them to do…
Sid: Excuse me I was just thinking I might buy some stock in Canadian companies after they have repented like they have to the Jews. And from what I understand leaders from all over Canada came together to repent for their attitude toward the Jew and especially that major act of not accepting the Jewish refugees from the St. Louis.
Nita: That’s exactly right and the Lord has promised to pour out not just revival but He has promised to make His presence come upon Canada in an unprecedented way and lift Canada to the forefront of world evangelism. He’s actually going to raise Canada up above all the nations of the world. He’s been promising the Canadian church this for the last 20 years. The first prophecy ever given was given through Dr. Cho. I gave a prophecy of a similar nature when I was in Canada about 16 years ago. And now He is taking Canada through the cycle of preparing themselves to be a bride for the Lord. And one who will lead the nations of the world in this next great move. And further more will be the nation that God will use to bring about the second coming of the Messiah.
Sid: What about America?
Nita: America is going to find herself not in the lead but subordinate to Canada regardless of what we do at this point. The only thing that we can do at this point is if we could as a church in this nation come to a true deep heartfelt repentance toward Israel and toward the Jewish people and make right or wrong then we will avail ourselves to a much higher level of glory and outpouring. And even push back judgments that God has decreed against America.
Sid: But you know Nita I find such confusion going on right now in God’s people in the church in reference to the Jew in Israel. There’s one large segment of Christians that think that the church has replaced Israel and the church gets the blessings and Israel gets the curses. And then there’s another group of Christians that love Israel so much they think that they are Israel. It’s getting… I think the devil is really stirring things up.
Nita: He is stirring up a lot of confusion and he’d be a lot less successful if we spent more time in the word. But of course the word doesn’t support any of this stuff. Any kind of replacement theology the word does not support. And so but what we can do is to bring our hearts back to the Lord, and you know Sid I might also mention this that people that embrace this kind of theology deep in their heart there is an undertone either already existing or an undertone that is implanted of anti-Semitism.
Sid: I was just going to say this I hear pastors that say “Oh I love the Jew in Israel” and then will say anti-Semitic remarks and not even realize it.
Nita: I have as I’ve traveled across America spoken to churches about this for about the last 2 years. And when I take a hand count of those who feel that the Jewish people have incurred all that they’ve gone through in the last 2000 years because they rejected Messiah because they have put him on a cross they killed our God is this kind of theology. How many people in a given church believe this? I will get hands raised from 60 to 80% of the congregation will say “Yes I believe that that because the Jews killed Christ they have gone through all that they’ve gone through the last 2000 years.
Sid: Excuse me hold that thought and of course that’s bad theology the Bible says that Jesus laid down His own life for the sins of the whole world. And He died for all as a result of the sins of Jew and Gentile alike. However we’ll pick up there with Nita.
Sid: Now many of you are familiar with my guest she’s been on our broadcast several times before her name is Nita Johnson. She’s the Leader of the World for Jesus Ministries. I’m speaking to her at her home in Fresno, California. As a young child she stated getting very graphic visions and dreams and encounters with the Lord about the last days in America. And for years she would…I mean for years she literally saw the judgments she saw the states that would be devastated as a results of these judgments and for years she went around America blowing the shofar, if you will, warning Christians to start praying because of these judgments that perhaps they’ll be stopped. But fairly recently the Lord showed you that all we can do is delay judgment we can’t stop it is that correct?
Nita: That’s correct yes.
Sid: Now a lot of people have problems with that. Are you saying the Lord is saying the judgment is coming it’s just a matter if we pray we’ll have a little more time?
Nita: That’s correct Sid. It goes right back to the Lord speaking to the people of Israel even his date and time He said the cup is full. And that’s where we stand in America our cup is about full the cup of apathy, the cup of sin, the cup of pride and rebellion it’s just about full and so the Lord is still listening to that cry of the Esther who will come before Him and seek His mercy, even yes for extended time. But ultimately He has done speaking of judgment from what I have learned for the last almost 100 years warning America to come out of her rebellion and pride and to humble herself before Him. And so with that He’s waited a good long time the next step is up to us in are we going to do what’s He’s asking.
Sid: And you explained to me and we’ll talk about it a little later in the week that there is one major sin issue and when that occurs you can realize there’s nothing to stop the outpouring of God’s judgment. But we’ll talk about that a little later in the broadcast but you just got back from a very exciting meeting in Ottawa, Canada. And it was the survivors from the ship St. Louis and for those that aren’t familiar with the ship St. Louis would you tell us about the background.
Nita: The ship St. Louis was actually sent out from Germany with just shy of 1000 immigrants and most of which were Jewish. And sent to Cuba all of these individuals were supposed to have had visas to allow them to go into Cuba and to live there for a temporary asylum and had in fact purchased these visas when the Cuban government decided to change its mind.
Sid: Now this was at the time at the Holocaust and Hitler and they were fleeing Germany for their lives.
Nita: They really were it was at the very very inception of the Holocaust. It was after Kristallnacht, which was the night of broken glass, where the Germans went in and virtually shattered windows of shops and synagogues and so on and so forth. Much damage by our calculations we would have to say probably millions and millions of dollars of damage was done.
Sid: So approximately under a 1000 Jews were on a ship St. Louis and they were trying to get out of the gas ovens.
Nita: With their life.
Sid: And the first country they went to you said was Cuba?
Nita: Was Cuba.
Sid: And what did Cuba do?
Nita: When they were stationed at Havana and Cuba decided that they didn’t want them after all. Then they reach out to America and through a series of events realized that wasn’t going to produce anything. So then they reached out to Canada and Canada stayed with their initial stance which was no more Jews in Canada. And as a result the ship was turned back to Europe and the Jewish relief organization began to seek out other countries that would take these Jews on. But as it turned out to make a long story short 90% of these Jews ended up dying in prison camps. Out of almost 1000 souls there were less than 100 who survived. And so Canada realizing… the Canadian church now realizing their wrong, God having dealt with leaders in the Canadian church very heavily over this issue decided that they were going to go through a time of repentance which they have done now for the last 3 years; gathering groups of leaders and intercessors together by various means to repent before the Lord for having rejected the Jew at a time of the European Holocaust. And then the Lord finally said “It’s time to bring the survivors of the St. Louis up to Canada and make a public apology to them.” So that’s what they did on November 5th. It was a very powerful event for 2 reasons #1 the love of Yeshua that was poured out in that entire weekend was so phenomenal that these Jewish people would make comments continually that they had never experienced such love. The reason that they had never experienced it not only was in because of His divine love that was flowing through these meetings but because of all of the repentance that these believers had gone through their hearts were wide open to the Jewish people. And they very much desired to make restitution make right any wrong by openly demonstrating their love to these people. And so other comments that were made by these Jewish survivors were such things as “If this is the love that a Christian can feel maybe this Jesus Christ isn’t so bad after all.” They were absolutely astounded at the overflowing and abundant love that they were experiencing by Christians who they have known to be nothing but enemies for generations.
Sid: So imagine the bitterness in the heart towards all of these countries that could have saved a 1000 Jewish men, woman and children. Instead they sent them back to the gas ovens and you said this was not the only ship that this happened with.
Nita: Actually there was a second ship that was sent out right behind St. Louis. And in actuality there were people who were on the St. Louis that had family members who were on this second ship. Because they were over scheduled for the St. Louis so the overflow went onto the second ship, and when the captain heard that the St. Louis was not being received he just turned around and went back to Germany and virtually everyone on that ship died.
Sid: What was Hitler’s reaction when the world didn’t care about the Jews?
Nita: Between the Evian Conference that took place about a year prior to that and this event with the ships Hitler saw that as a statement by the world we don’t want to Jews so you do whatever you want to with them. And it was following that that massive massacres occurred to Jewish people began to occur throughout Germany, Poland and then eventually reaching out into Europe. So it was a very very strong statement. If we would have received the St. Louis, or if the Evian Conference would have gone differently than it went I feel very strongly there never would have been a holocaust.
Sid: Now explain Evian Conference was?
Nita: That was a conference that took place back in 1938 where 32 nations of the world, the more powerful nations, came together to decide what to do with this Jewish immigration situation. And all but the Dominion Republic refused to do anything about taking Jews into their country and America was part of that. America and Canada. Canada stood up actually and said “None is too many the more you do for the Jews the more they want and the more of them there will be so we will take no Jews.” That again was a stance in regards to the St. Louis ship. And so… but nations all over the world Sid made this same decision and between the two the Evian Conference and the St. Louis Ship that made a strong statement to Hitler that he needed to just quit trying to send the Jewish people out into the world into other countries and just get rid of them. So that’s what he did.
Sid: Nita we’re just about out of time on today’s broadcast but you said a this conference God quickened to you a visions that you had that is very relevant to us today. I’d like to start tomorrow’s broadcast with that….
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world, where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest was just having basic surgery, and he left his body and there was someone by him. That someone was Jesus, and he received an importation and revelation from God. This is what he was told, every person that knows the Lord has a God package inside of them, and as you listen to my guest speak, you will get revelation of your God package. The more you listen to him speak, the more revelation, and you cannot accomplish your destiny unless you know what God has packaged inside of you, and I am believing that everyone is going to get revelation right now. My guest was having an ento procedure. This was back in ’92, and this is the first time he’s been given permission to share what happened in a public venue. Kevin, the presence of God since that point has been so strong on you that I just pray you’re able to get through this interview.
KEVIN: I agree.
SID: But, Kevin, you were having this procedure and you found yourself outside of your body, and there was someone there with you. Tell me about it.
KEVIN: When I first realized that I was out of my body, I, at first, was alarmed. I looked around and I thought, “I’ll tell the doctor,” so the surgeon was working on me. I’ll just point at him and tell him …
SID: You were pointing to the doctor doesn’t know that you’re dead.
SID: No pulse. He’s got to bring you back.
KEVIN: He wouldn’t listen to me, so I walked over and I poked him, and he still didn’t think that I was that serious about it, so I went to the nurse and then the nurse ignored me, too, so I went to the anesthesiologist and she did the same thing, and so I put my hands up in the air and I thought, “Well, this is it.” All of a sudden, my body started to glow on the table, and I transformed into my resurrection body. I said to myself, “I look beautiful.”
Jesus: You look like that to me all the time.
SID: Your resurrection body, you will look beautiful. Did you look better than you do now?
KEVIN: Yes, Sid. I was astounded. I heard a man’s voice that was not accounted for in the room. He said, “Well, that’s what you look like to me all the time,” and I turned around and it was Jesus, and so I walked up to him and he met me right there in the center of the operating room.
SID: Kevin is a flight attendant. You told me, one particular day, how many people did you witness to and they came to the Lord?
KEVIN: I started in the morning out of Florida, and by the time I got to New Orleans at night, I had witnessed to forty-one people, and they had been weeping as I’d walk by in the aisle and laughing, and I asked them what was wrong and they said, “Every time you walk by there’s some sort of presence on you.” Before you know it, I was witnessing to four rows in the airplane about my visitation, and they all started crying. I’ve seen things like that happen.
SID: I wish you were my flight attendant, I can tell you that. Kevin, Jesus taught you something, and it’s in the Bible, but it just really spoke to me about the power of words.
KEVIN: Yes. Initially, he wanted to teach me, so he started teaching me. It was amazing. He walked up to me and he said, “You know, in Matthew 12:36, I said that you will be held accountable for every word that comes out of your mouth.
Jesus: You will be held accountable for every word that comes out of your mouth.
KEVIN: Then he just stared at me. I started to feel a little convicted, because I was a talker, and I felt like I needed to make an adjustment inside, and so he walked up to my ear and he whispered. He goes, “You know I meant that, don’t you?”
Jesus: You know I meant that, don’t you?
KEVIN: Then he smiled at me. He began to teach me …
SID: What do his eyes look like?
KEVIN: His eyes have a really deep, and inside I could see my destiny. In fact, I could see inside his eyes the moment that he thought of me and breathed me out, and I went into my mother’s womb.
SID: My goodness.
KEVIN: Yes. And he’s full of fire, too. His eyes are full of fire.
SID: But he meant what he said about idle, inoperative, unnecessary, let alone gossip, words.
SID: You, also, looked at your body and you saw something black over you. Tell me about that.
KEVIN: The next step in the teaching that he did for me was he asked me to turn around and look at my body again, which was really bright and transformed.
Jesus: Turn around and look at your body.
KEVIN: All of sudden now there was a black vest obscuring my beauty from my neck down to my stomach area. I inquired of the Lord, “What is this,” and he said, “Take a look closer. If you’ll look really close.”
Jesus: If you look really close, it’s all the words spoken against you that were not true.
KEVIN: “I’ll show you what it is,” and it was all the words that were spoken against me and that were not true, and had formed a vest. There were so many. It looked like newspaper print, but there were words, and he said, “These words that people spoke, they were not your destiny, and we need to take care of this.”
Jesus: These words that people spoke, they are not your destiny. We need to take care of this.
SID: We believe almost anything anyone says. If we had as much faith in the written word of God as we do on what these nobodies say to us, and if what they say does not line up with the word of God … I had a prophet come to me one time and tell me I had a dread disease. I’m so glad I didn’t believe him. I’m so glad I rejected it. I heard of another man who was told … One day a spirit came to him and said, “You’re going to die today.” I’m glad he rebuked that spirit. He lived another fifty years. Let every man be a liar, but God’s word is true. Then, Kevin, Jesus said, “I’m going to share with you the one most supernatural thing that you can do, but very few of my children do it,” that will so throw them into the supernatural more than anything else available when I come back.
SID: Our spirit is saved instantly. But you believe it takes a lifetime to work out your salvation.
APOSTLE MALDONADO: The soul is being transformed, being changed and being delivered. In other words, it’s not instant. Our spirit is being saved. The Holy Spirit lives there. So that’s what I don’t believe. A Christian can’t be possessed by a demon, but can be influenced in some areas. For example, I’ve been in a place when the Lord said to me, “I want you to call every person that is sick in their body and the doctors cannot find the cause of that sickness.” Usually, Sid, when that happens is a demon because they don’t have any detectors, supernatural detectors to say it’s a demon. Doctors can say that. Unless you have discernment, you can’t discern if it’s a demon. So usually when I rebuke the spirit of sickness the person is instantly healed.
SID: You say that we should start acting like Jesus. How did Jesus act?
APOSTLE MALDONADO: Well Jesus acted as the Son of God, anointed by the Holy Spirit. He left behind his Glory. Now he’s acting in the power of God. But we all, every believer has the power and the authority to cast out demons because so many people are afraid. No, I’m afraid.
SID: Why are people so afraid of demons?
APOSTLE MALDONADO: Because there’s a tradition in theology and doctrines that if you lay hands on people that demon will jump on you. Wait a minute, greater is he that is in me that is in the world. Let’s go to the scripture. The Lord has given us, Sid, and those people that are watching, the Lord has given us power, the ability, Divine ability, and God has given us the authority: Luke 10:19, Matthew 28:19. In other words, we got both. We got the ability and we got the legal right, the authorization to use the power. Any believer has the power and the authority to cast out demons. You don’t have to be a superstar.
SID: Right now, I want you, there are people that they’re believers, but they’re not free. I want you to pray a prayer for freedom for those that are watching. I want you to pray it. We have a large number of prayer requests. Let’s hold on to this and you pray for freedom for people watching and these people to be healed.
APOSTLE MALDONADO: Father, in the name of Jesus, can we start praying in the Holy Spirit. Father, in the name of Jesus, I thank you, Father. I release that anointing for deliverance, freedom, those that are bound, those that are addicted to alcohol, those that are addicted to food, those that are addicted in depression and oppression. In the name of Jesus, right now I set you free. Any spirit of sickness in their bodies, be healed, be delivered right now. Go in the name of Jesus. I see somebody trying to commit suicide. God is delivering you now. I see somebody that is, you’ve been in depression for 15 years. You’ve taken medication. God is setting you free in the name of Jesus. God is doing something very powerful. There is someone struggling with alcohol. You’re struggling with alcohol. God is setting you free. In the name of Jesus, the anointing is destroying the yoke right now. Be free in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen and amen.
SID: Do you realize you are God’s ambassador and as an ambassador you need to be fully equipped. And anything in the book, it’s yours. Every promise in that book, it’s yours. If Jesus is your Messiah and Lord, and if he’s not, tell him you’re sorry for your sins, ask him to cleanse you by his blood, and come live inside of you and take over your life. Say, thank you, Lord Jesus.
SID: Now you say that God’s word is simple, practical and powerful.
APOSTLE MALDONADO: I believe, Sid, that it’s simple when you understand you have power and authority, when you understand and get the revelation who you are in God. As a believer, as it said in the beginning, the power of God is not based on personality. The power of God is based on truth. If you know the Word, if you know the truth you will do miracles. I’ve seen all kinds of people, young people, adults, moving in miracles and they don’t have any gift because the tradition is well you have to have a gift. Well if you got the truth that’s enough to do miracles.
SID: You mean, tell me about a transfer of this resurrection power. Tell me about Reverend Paul from India and the nurse with the brain tumor.
APOSTLE MALDONADO: This pastor came from India. As he was activated I laid hands on him. I speak the word, he got the impartation. He went back to India and a woman, her baby died and I called him, as soon as he got from Miami to India.
Man: And I said God is going to raise her up. And I began to pray for her in the telephone, and I began to call out and said, “In the name of Jesus, come back to life. I come against every spirit of death in the name of Jesus.” And I prayed and I hanged the phone.
APOSTLE MALDONADO: So he prayed to rebuke the spirit of death. Her baby came back to life. So now, Sid, this is not a person, he’s not known. He got a nice size church, but it’s not known. Again, we’re going back into Mark 16:15. If we preach the word, do we believe the resurrection, do you believe Jesus is alive now. See, what happened is if you ask me a question why the church is not moving in miracles, I would say that we preach an historical God. Miracles doesn’t happen in the past, miracles doesn’t happen in the future, miracles happen now.
SID: Tell me about the nurse with the brain tumor.
APOSTLE MALDONADO: She was healed. It was a terminal disease and she’s watching me by television, and she was healed. She was delivered. And then now she came to one my schools. She was activated and went back. And there’s a baby that died in the hospital, and she said, “I rebuke the spirit of death.” And that baby came back to life.
SID: This nurse works with babies that are not expected to live and she has this miracle anointing. And people are getting this over the TV. They’re having their own miracles over television. You told me that God spoke to you that there was a portal opening for creative miracles. Tell me about that.
APOSTLE MALDONADO: Okay. The Lord spoke to me. He said, “You’ve been seeing.” He gave me a foretaste of those creative miracles. I saw a lot of creative miracles. I saw deliverance, the whole thing on the supernatural. But in this time he said, “There’s a portal open over your ministry and for you to impart to my people.” That’s the key, because again, we’re not talking about celebrity. We’re talking about the people, any believer moving in the supernatural. So I saw the shift in it. I saw the shift and whenever you see somebody that’s missing a breast and the breast grew back, and whenever you see flesh and bones growing, a kidney, it’s powerful. So I saw the shift and the amount, and the creative in it.
SID: All right. Last month you were in Argentina. Tell me what you saw with your eyes.
APOSTLE MALDONADO: One of my churches in Argentina, 27,000 people in the stadium. And then suddenly the Spirit of God said, “You are to minister creative ministers.” And I just prayed like two or three minutes because the portal on my life, that portal created the realm, the realm of creative. So I just prayed. I said, “God, create miracles” and I released it. Sid, we documented. It took 15 minutes, 15 minutes.
SID: Fifteen minutes.
APOSTLE MALDONADO: Fifteen minutes to have in the altar the first testimony and then we have a line of people. And then we counted. We got doctors and our people, 60 creative new organs. The first lady, she was standing, and the first lady, she said, “Oh my God, my breasts,” she said, “my breasts were removed because of cancer.” And there’s another lady, she said, “My God, adrenal gland,” she said had been removed. And she had a hole here. And she said, “I didn’t have the eardrum. I was born without it. I couldn’t hear.” So suddenly, she starts screaming, “I can hear! I can hear!” And she said, “I don’t have the hole anymore. The Lord put the gland in.” And just like that, 60 miracles. God will do it to those people that are watching.
SID: You told me that was all you had time to document. There are many more.
APOSTLE MALDONADO: Oh yes. We got lines and lines of people waiting. And God will do it for those people that are watching. Are you ready for it?
SID: Jesus used the casting out of demons to announce, that was his advertising. He didn’t have the Internet and all the things we have today. But he had something more powerful. He used the casting out of demons to illustrate the fact that the Kingdom of God has come on Earth. Now I’m taking you back many years, Guillermo. Early in your ministry, you, like myself, like everyone, had many questions. You would wonder why people who were believers were addicted to things like pornography and alcohol, and things like that, where people would have fears, unreasonable fears they couldn’t shake. He had all these questions and God answered you.
APOSTLE MALDONADO: The answer was that there was a missing ingredient. Even in my leadership I didn’t see the church in the ministry grow. And the Lord said the missing ingredient is the ministry of deliverance.
SID: For some people this is kind of new because that whole ministry, which was the thing Jesus emphasized, has been set aside. Would you define for me deliverance.
APOSTLE MALDONADO: Deliverance is a permanent removing of influences and demonic oppressions from the person, either from the mind, emotions, and will from the soul, is removing, is the removal of those things, especially believers. And I believe Jesus ministers four stages: preaching, teaching, healing and casting out demons. Today we do preaching and teaching, not healing, a little bit, and casting out demons, no, we don’t want to do it. And how come we can identify with the ministry of the Jesus? I would not be ashamed to do the deliverance. I was not ministering deliverance. I was just preaching the Kingdom because when you preach the Kingdom the sign of the preaching of the Kingdom is the casting out demons. So there’s a confrontation, there’s a conflict between two kingdoms. And believers are manifesting and being delivered.
SID: I have heard people say Christians can’t have demons.
APOSTLE MALDONADO: Well they cannot be possessed. Possession and demonization is totally different. There’s two terms. Possession is ownership. Demonization is influence.
SID: Didn’t Jesus cast out a spirit of infirmity?
APOSTLE MALDONADO: Yes, that’s what I’m saying. There’s influence. But I’m ministering in this church and I see people being delivered, and he cut me off. And I said, “Listen, Jesus’ blood paid for that person to be delivered.”
SID: Find out more when we come back.