Sid: My guest Craig Hill is going to light a fire on your marriage and where you have almost given up, don’t give up; the God factor, the supernatural factor is ready to happen in your marriage. Now Craig you’ve been hammering at the husband’s for a while, I want to understand from a wife’s perspective of what she might be doing to savage a marriage.
Craig: Sid, what I found was that many women don’t understand what does the Bible mean when the Apostle Paul says you’re to respect your husband. She says, “Well, I respect him, you know I think he’s a nice guy and all that, but here’s what I’ve discovered respect really means, what every husband wants. He wants to be accepted, he wants to be admired, he wants to be appreciated and I boil it down to a real simple thing; rather than being criticized for what he isn’t doing to meet her needs, he want to hear a message that says to him you’re a good husband. What I find that many wives do to their husbands without realizing it, they are continuing sending their husband a message bad, bad husband you didn’t do this right, you didn’t do that right. How come you pray for everybody else, you never pray for our family? How come you’re always there for everybody else, you’re never there for us. How come you did this wrong, you did that wrong, when are you going to rise up and be the spiritual head of our house and lead this family in prayer and all that kind of thing coming from a wife to husband feel I must be a miserable failure in her sight. The other thing that I found was that wives don’t realize how sensitive the heart of husband is because he looks strong and yet on the inside she can deeply wound him through criticism and through judgment and through conveying to him that everything he does, or many things that he does are wrong. You know I’m thinking that one of the biggest difficulties that wives have is to believe that their husband many, many times wound them without realizing it. The thing that I’ve found is that is a deception for most wives.
Sid: They think that it’s intentional.
Craig: They do, that is exactly what they think, they think that he did that on purpose and when she confronts him and says “You hurt me, you did that, you took the kids to the State Fair, we were talking about, on purpose on the weekend when I was out of town just to hurt me. Well no, that’s not true; He didn’t even realize that, he wasn’t trying to do that. Here’s the biggest thing that wives don’t realize; their husbands are not intentionally trying to hurt them. And when a husband says, I don’t know I did anything wrong, I wasn’t trying to hurt you. Most wives don’t believe them. Let me give you this example Sid, it would be like this, suppose a wife was coming out of the grocery store with her hands full of groceries, full of bags of groceries and as she stepped out of the store a man walking down the sidewalk runs right into her, knocks those groceries out of her hands and the groceries are flying everywhere, and she angrily picking up those groceries and she looks up at him and says, “What’s wrong with you, why don’t watch where you’re going, are you blind or something?” And the man says, oh, I’m so sorry, yes as a matter of fact, I am blind, normally I go out with my seeing eye dog who helps me but unfortunately he was run over by a car yesterday and this is the first day to try to make it on my own and I guess I’m not doing too well, I’m so sorry. And the woman stands up and had an immediate paradyne shift and change of heart and she says to him, “Oh had no idea I’m so sorry, where are you trying to go, may I help you?” Now what changed the situation didn’t change, it was exactly the same; what changed was her understand of motive. She understood that this man literally was blind and did not intentionally knock the groceries out of her hand, as opposed to this man is self consumed, unconcerned about anything else and just ran into me because he’s careless. So that’s a totally different paradyne what I want most wives to know is this, you have married a blind man, please help the blind man don’t judge him, don’t condemn him. I’ve found that more that 90% of the time when your husband offends you, wounds you, makes you feel that he doesn’t love you, doesn’t care about you it’s not intentional, it’s that he’s blind. He honestly didn’t see it, he didn’t know it and when you confront him with it, expecting him to take responsibility and say, “Oh, you’re right and I’m so sorry please forgive me; the reason he doesn’t is he honestly can’t see it.” And if you can get that in your heart as a wife, so that your motive and intent becomes, let me help him, rather than let me judge him, condemn him, and feel like he doesn’t care about me. The reason he hurt you is not because he doesn’t care about you, the reason he hurt you is because he didn’t see it, he didn’t know it. And if you can allow that paradyne shift to take place in your heart as a wife so that you begin to understand his heart. He really does love me; he really does care about me; if you can do that as a wife that is a simple natural step that you can take that will begin to supernaturally change your marriage. What I mean by that is what you can do today, is when your husband comes home, or when you see him ask him that question; “Have I made you feel like you don’t do anything right in my sight; have I made you feel judged and criticized, and then just listen to his heart? If he says yes, ask him to forgive you and tell him you love him, you admire him. Another thing that I’ve found Sid, one other thing is that husbands work very, very hard. They put up with a lot at work sometimes a mean boss, sometimes mean customers, sometimes many pressures and difficulties at work. The reason they do that is because they love their family; because they love their wife, they love their children and there’s one word that convey word that conveys great value to a husband that many husband’s never hear from their wife. And that word is simply this, thank you. Thank you for all the pressure there, thank you for all you put up with at work, I know you do that because you love me, you love our family, I so admire you, thank you for working so hard for us, appreciate you, I admire you, you’re my husband, you’re a gift from God. And you know if you will do that tonight for your husband it will begin to change something instantaneously in your relationship. He will begin to open his heart back up again, that is the one thing that husbands are waiting to hear is that simple word from a wife, thank you, I appreciate you. That is what we perceive as respect, that’s what Paul is talking about in Ephesians Chapter 5 and I find that most wives are not seeing that or totally oblivious to that and they think that if I just tell them all the things that he did wrong that he’ll change. And what does is convey a relational message to the husband that you’re a failure in my sight that deeply wounds him and he will close up and withdraw. So that’s a critical thing. On the other side, I wound my wife many times without realizing it and if I will stop and ask her how I’ve made her feel, and once I understand that and apologize even though I don’t think I was wrong I may not have been wrong on a topical issue but if I was wrong in the way I communicated to her in making her feel valueless and if I repent and take responsibility for that and ask her to forgive me, again it will supernaturally release the Holy Spirit to begin to heal the spirit of that marriage.
Sid: I can tell you when I read that in your book it just hit me so hard it’s so right and I just never looked at it that way, I looked at black, you know I’m a prophetic type person, everything is black and white and there is no room for that second level that unseen level.
Craig: Exactly and many times, I can be right on the topic level, I don’t think the man that took the kids to the State Fair, he wasn’t wrong, he was right to take his kids to the State Fair but what he was wrong in was not understanding what happened to his wife in being willing to deal with her feelings and convey value and love to her. And that’s what Apostle Paul says in Ephesians 5:32 & 33 is that he is to love her and she is to respect him and again if we don’t know what that means then we are very busy doing exactly the opposite and not realizing that we are doing it and doing damage to the spirit of our marriage, wounding each other and wondering why we aren’t having a very pleasant experience.
SID: Hello, Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I want to read a little to you from our most recent newsletter. “Is it possible that there exists an ancient mystery in which is hidden the secret of America’s future? Is it possible this mystery lies behind everything, from 9/11 to the war in Iraq, to the American housing bubble, and it’s bursting to the crash of Wall Street and the global economy, to the great recession, and much more, even to the President of the United States?” Now there’s a Messianic Jewish rabbi who lives right outside of New York City that went to the grounds of 9/11 after that horrific event occurred. And let me read you a quote by him. “As I was standing at the edge of Ground Zero, I came across the first puzzle piece of an ancient biblical mystery and a prophetic message known as “The Harbinger” that concerns the future of America.” I have Rabbi Jonathan Cahn here. And Jonathan, you use a word, and I want to understand what you mean by it, “harbinger”. What do you mean?
JONATHAN: A harbinger is a sign, an omen, or a foreshadow of something that is yet to come. It can be a harbinger of something good, usually a harbinger of something that you take warning in, a harbinger of judgment in this case. That’s exactly what it is.
SID: And the thing that is so stunning is that point by point, the Holy Spirit revealed to Jonathan that the pattern that happened to Israel is happening to the United States of America. And he found nine harbingers, nine warning signs. Jonathan, how important is this revelation at this moment in history?
JONATHAN: I think it couldn’t be more important because God gives signs to a nation warning it of judgment. And God is calling America. America is in danger by these harbingers. It’s a warning. It’s to save the nation. But it’s a sign that we are in a very dangerous period.
SID: Briefly, tell me what happened to Israel at the time of this prophecy? It’s Isaiah 9:10.
JONATHAN: Yes. That’s going to be the key, Isaiah 9:10 is the key of the harbingers. Ancient Israel was founded by God. It was blessed by God, but it turned away. It rebelled against Him. It drove Him out of its life. And what happened is God sent prophets to them and he called them, warned them. Finally, He did something to shake them up as a wake-up call, and He withdrew their hedge of national protection. He lifted it up. It was temporary, but He lifted it up, that an enemy struck the land and inflicted damage, traumatized the nation. But it was temporary. It was limited. They withdrew and then there was normalcy. It was to wake them up, a wake-up call. But they did not wake up. They chose to keep defying God. Instead of repenting, turning back to God, they became even more defiant and they made a vow, and that vow is Isaiah 9:10. They said this: “The bricks have fallen, but we will rebuild with hune stone. The sycamores have been cut down, but we will plant cedars in their place.” And what that meant was we’re not going to be humbled. We’re not going to turn back. We’re going to continue away from God. In fact, we’re going to come back even stronger. We’re going to replace weaker things with stronger things.
SID: It’s like a defiant spirit.
JONATHAN: Exactly. You said it. The commentaries on this always use that same word. They say, “They breathed the spirit of defiance.” Exactly!
SID: Okay. But that was ancient Israel. And warning after warning, I can almost feel God’s heart saying, “I do not want to see you destroyed. You’re my first-born. Please heed the warnings.” But Jonathan, why did you feel that this was a warning, a prototype, if you will, for the United States of America?
JONATHAN: Ancient Israel did not turn and they were destroyed. So now, we have America. America was also founded on God’s Word. It was founded to fulfill His purpose. America has also turned, been turning and turning more and more rapidly away from God and His ways. God in His mercy calls out to a nation, and if it doesn’t respond, the callings get more severe. What happened now is the first harbinger, or the first thing that happened was the breach, was that lifting up of the national security, allowing an enemy to strike the land, a wake-up call.
SID: You’re talking about 9/11.
JONATHAN: Now, yes. That was for ancient Israel. Now, God did it with America. That happened exactly on September 11, 2001. The national defense of America, the hedge was lifted up. He allowed an enemy to strike. Same way, limited scope, limited time, traumatized the nation, a wake-up call. 9/11 was an alarm seeking to save America from the road it’s going on.
SID: Okay. So the progressive judgments were nine harbingers, nine warnings. Let’s talk about one: the Gazette Stone.
JONATHAN: Okay. This is what happened. And you look at the key of Isaiah 9:10. It says, “The bricks have fallen, but we will replace them with hune stone In Hebrew it’s the word “gazette”. Gazette means “cut, quarried, taken out of mountain rock”. It’s a strong thing. They made it into a big rectangular mass of stone. What they were saying is there was a destruction, and it was clay bricks, but we’re going to come back stronger as a nation. So we’re going to take a stronger thing. We’re going build higher and bigger, and better. So what they did is they took these gazette stones. They went to the quarries in the mountains, cut it out, brought it back to the ground of destruction where the bricks had fallen, and there they vowed, “With this, we’re going to rebuild a nation;” a sign of defiance.
SID: Okay. That’s Israel. What about America?
JONATHAN: Well that’s the thing. This is what happened. After 9/11, in New York, they went to the mountains. They quarried out a rock, a 20-ton rectangular block. According to the harbinger, it has to be brought back to the ground of destruction. They bring it to New York City, bring it to Ground Zero; place it on the pavement of Ground Zero. They have a ceremony around the stone. They have leaders there: governor of New York, governor of New Jersey, the mayor. They pronounce vows of defiance over the stone. They say, “This stone of America is going to come back stronger than ever. We’re going to rebuild.” In fact, you said it before, the spirit of defiance. That’s what the commentaries say about this. The governor of New York actually says, “We are the heirs of the spirit of defiance and we lay this stone.”
SID: And he used the word “defiant”?
JONATHAN: Not just defiant. He used the words “spirit of defiance.” We said, “We are the spirit of defiance.” You see this over and over again.
SID: If there was just one parallel between Israel, and what happened to them and their eventual destruction and one parallel with the United States, we might say, so what. But there are nine harbingers with progressive judgments. This may be, no, this is the most important prophetic show you will ever see. We’ll be back right after this word.
Sid: We want everyone everywhere to hear the good news; we want everyone everywhere to be plain red hot for the Messiah. And when I started interviewing my guest Ron Phillips he doesn’t know this, but in our office there was so much angelic activity going on. And then we do this by telephone Ron and tell me again what’s going on on your side of the phone angelic wise.
Ron: The angelic visitation is here, I feel like there are two angels with me right now. One is an angel of joy here right now and this angel goes to the pulpit with me every Sunday and stands at my right and he has been so manifestly powerful even in the old building. He came to the new building with us and people that step into that territory will feel like laughing; which is another manifestation that frightens people is when joy comes. I have felt that this Joy angel is here and I know that this angel called Noble is, we talked about it on an earlier program has promised to give me favor. And I believe he’s going to give you favor and favor with people that are listening that the Holy Spirit is going to move and motivate them to help you get the word out; I just believe they are here that favor has come. And you know when you get to the Book of Revelation angelic activity, you’ve got seven angels of churches, you’ve got seven angels throwing out bowls and blowing trumpets, angels are preaching everlasting gospel. There is, we are experiencing already an increase in angelic activity.
Sid: Why are we experiencing this increase in angelic activity?
Ron: I think what you said in yesterday’s program, “Man is coming to end of himself.” we cannot, the problems cannot be solved. It’s like Jesus said in Luke 21, “Man’s heart failing from fear from the things coming on the earth for the powers of heaven will be shaken.” And I think that people today are again believing in the supernatural, that’s why your programs so important and they need to know the truth about the supernatural so that they are not deceived. And we know that we can’t do what we need to do, we can’t have what we need to have, we can’t go where we need to go without the supernatural power of God through the Holy Spirit and through the fort the host which He has provided. He said in Hebrews 1:14 that He sent those angels that they might serve all of us who are heirs of salvation. And so we need to get these angels out of the unemployment line and back out there with us.
Sid: Now the Bible also says that many of us entertain angels unawares. Well, do you believe that there are many occasions that people have angelic help and they aren’t even aware of it?
Ron: Yes and when I began to preach this in our church and teach it to our people which I have been doing; just finished. We have had hundreds of people who have now realized that that person that they met on the job; or that person that they thought helped them was an angel. Let me give you one example; Coach Mike Duboist, who coaches Mill Saps College in Jackson, Mississippi. Coach Duboist and his wife years ago lived in Chattanooga and they moved to Hattiesburg, Mississippi were unpacking there house when they heard a knock at the door. Went to the door and their two year old child was standing there with a radiant looking woman. The child had never before climbed out of its bed; he climbed went out the back door and was found standing in the middle of an intersection of cars. Two years old, the child had taken his big wheel maybe two or three years old or somewhere in that range. This woman brought the child back and was standing at the door and Ms Duboist got the child in, she was weeping she turned around, she turned back around the woman vanished; she never saw her again, never met her again. It was their first day, her first day in Hattiesburg; moving in to the house the football team there had provided for them. And it was years before she realized that God had manifested himself an angel and as a woman I think so the child wouldn’t be frightened; and to bring that child home. Yes Sir, I believe that angels unawares.
Sid: And but also there’s so much supernatural protection, your first experience with an angel resulted in supernatural experience, explain that.
Ron: Yes sir, I was driving my 56 Ford to fast (chuckle) toward Newton, Mississippi to Clark College where I went for a year before I went to Sanford University. And as I was driving in that direction I saw a bridge abutment in front of me and a car passed another car and ran me off the road toward that bridge abutment. And I just kind of closed my eyes turned the car towards the bridge because I didn’t want to hit the other car. And when I opened my eyes I was off the road, but I pulled back on the road past the bridge and never hit the bridge; I believe and angel lifted my car. The very same year I was coming home from the same school riding with a friend in a brand new Pontiac GTO and a trailer truck came over in our lane and ran us off the road and we did three flips and I felt like somebody like somebody had thrown a mattress of protection around me; while the man driving the car was injured I walked away from a total out wreck without a scratch or even a piece of torn clothes. I didn’t realize back then that God was supernaturally protecting me to prepare me for what he wanted me to do.
Sid: You talk about a vicious chow dog that had some supernatural protection of someone that you knew.
Ron: Yeah, Ginny Greecemere in our church and Jenny’s husband is president of a huge appliance corporation, these are solid sharp people. She use to have a direct sales business like woman have you know when she was delivering product to the door of a friend that had bought from her. The friend warned her had said, don’t come in the backyard, because our Chow, were going to have to get rid of him because he’s biting, he’s vicious, we don’t know what’s wrong with him. So Ginny said, “Don’t worry I’ll put it on the front porch,” so Ginny went up the front porch, left the product, when she turned the Chow was standing on the sidewalk between the…
Sid: This is the Chow dog.
Ron: A Chow dog growling, snarling threatening her and she said, she said right then, she said, “Lord send an angel right now and I command that angel to move that dog out of my way and put him back in the backyard.” Immediately, Ginny saw that dog’s head pushed down to the ground, him turned away from her, pushed towards the fence and like he was being drugged out of her way; she walked to her car and that dog never whimpered again. She knows that Psalm 91 came true, “He’ll give His angels charge over you, less you stump your toe, less you kick your foot against a stone.” That angel came, but I want to tell you she had to speak to that angel, that angel moves out when the word of God is voiced, that’s what Psalms says. We’ve got to speak to activate that angel. The angels can’t read your mind, you’ve got to speak and ask their assistance; they’re not going to move in on you. When you come to that encounter ask the Holy Spirit to help you and say, “Angels, get out there and help.” And I challenge everyone listening today to try this, to do it.
Sid: Well, in your heart of hearts isn’t this the reason you wrote the book?
Ron: Yes Sir, the truth is if you ask Strang, Strang picked up a series of my teaching on this and asked me to do it. I didn’t want to do it; I just…it was one of those things that it kind of my secrets and the things that God had done in my life and I didn’t want everybody to know about it and that was wrong. And now I know that people need this help and that we’ve got to release it out there. You know that you ask me about “The Angel Unawares” here’s something very important. That’s in the context of ministers, visiting and when you read through the whole context of that passage. You know, Benny Hinn used our building for his partner conference last year and as usual in this area there were those that were criticizing him. And Holy Spirit told me that angel unawares is not only those encounters that we have but say Sid Roth came to Abba House to preach and someone disrespected you. The angels that came with you would be insulted and angelic activity be interrupted on that person’s behalf. It’s very important to know that; don’t be speaking against the man of God or the woman of God who are out there no matter what you’ve heard. Because they come with a company of angels with them and you don’t want to insult those angels because those angels have come to press their ministry and to help the community that they’ve come to. That something that you’ve never heard around that text before but I think in context it’s true.
Sid: I think that that’s very important, but it’s in line with the greatest is love. The greatest gift so it’s in line with walking in love in the last days and what you’re saying is there is a tie in between walking in love and angelic activity.
Ron: Exactly is and when we becoming loving and serving and welcoming angels serve that way. The angelic activity increases and when we receive other people that’s why the idea of receiving angels unawares. If you receive another human being that God is touching or that God has a need the angelic activity around them combines with what’s going on in your life to increase the strength that’s around you. You know sometimes we don’t understand how an angelic favor can just be released on us in a moment. I was just out a little place called The Rush to workout and I was over there and I was going to get a protein shake on my way out and I could tell the girl was harried and busy but I wanted that shake and I said, “Lord I need some angelic help here she is too busy to do this and well, she is going to be rude and help me Lord and angels come and help.” And so I told her what I wanted and she said, “Well, okay and she went over to mix it and the Lord said, “Give her double the money, give her a tip equal to the cost of that shake.” So I did, I gave her that extra, I said, “I want you to have this.” She looked up at me and said, “Well, I want to give you an extra large instead of a small and she began to smile and I said, “Are you a Christian?” and she said, “Yes, but I haven’t had a good day.” I said, “Well, you need to know that your Joy Angel is here and she laughed out loud and I walked out the door with that milkshake; double size in my hand.”
Sid: It plain doesn’t matter what’s going to happened to the world economy; what’s going to happen with terrorism; what’s going to happen with disease as long as you know how to activate the angels and stand on the word of God. No weapon formed against you will prosper…
Sid: My guest, Joan Hunter and I am so excited to be introducing her brand new book “Power to Heal” and her previous book, called “Healing the Whole Man Handbook” and when you put these two books together Joan, in my opinion it’s like getting some of the best teaching from the generation of your parents, “The Happy Hunters” Charles and Francis Hunter and the best teaching from your forty years of your own ministry in healing. And it’s like someone going to one of the schools in fact, I remember reading in my notes about a man that had a healing school, but no one was getting healed; and so he went to one of your healing schools and what happened?
Joan: He started praying everybody and what was really neat was that he got home from the service and the daughter said, “Where have you been? And he said, “Well, I’ve been at a healing school this lady has come in and taught us how to pray for the sick.” And so any way she had come in and she had a neck problem and got healed, it was awesome and you know, he prayed for her. And she goes, “Well, can you go see my friend’s mother who is dying of stage four cancer and not expected to live in the next week or two?” And he goes, “Well, sure,” so he goes over and he takes his Bible and he takes his handbook over there and goes to the lady, has to go in the back room; she is confined to bed.
Sid: People actually take your handbook because you tell them step by step whatever the condition, how to pray for someone.
Joan: That’s right and I mean Pastor’s have it in their pulpit, on their desk and in their car and they take it on hospital visits and everything. And so goes in there and sees this lady and looks up the cancer in the book and prays over her, and he had been in the healing ministry, but then nothing was happening. And so he goes, “Well I know I’m suppose to speak in tongues and I know that I’m suppose to cry, I know that I’m supposed to read the word of God, but you know it doesn’t say that in the book.” Now I believe in all of those, but you don’t have to do it when you’re at the grocery store praying for somebody. You don’t have to do it in church services. If I had to that with everybody that I prayed for I’d be praying for you know thirty people all night long instead of praying for a hundred people in an hour. And so he went to and he says, “I know that I’m supposed to cry, I know that I’m suppose to do this, but she doesn’t say that. So he just said, “Well, God bless you and left and he felt really really bad.” So the following week a few days later he decided to go back and quote “Do it the right way,” and so he went back to pray for her, cry, read the Bible, speak in tongues, all of that over her get’s to the door and they open up the door he says “Is Mrs. so and so there?” And they go, “I’m sorry you’ve missed her.” And he goes, “I’ve missed her, I should have done it right the first time.” He felt so bad and the woman at the door said, “It’s okay she’ll be back in a few minutes, she just had to go out and do some errands,” it wasn’t like gone to heaven, she had gone to the store completely healed..
Sid: She had already been healed. Ha-ha.
Joan: Totally and completely healed.
Sid: Joan, I’m going to have some people that are going to have to deal with unforgiveness if I don’t turn you loose to pray for those dealing with trauma and fear.
Joan: That’s true; in this book “Power to Heal, it’ll walk you through any trauma, any unforgiveness, any generational curse, any area of your life where you’re dealing with stress. Any situation where your children, your spouse is concerned, you’re finances, this book “Power to Heal Will” will help walk you through every, every area of your life that needs to be just totally dealt with. Now place your hand over your heart and I know and we have seen this in the past, when I have been on programs with Sid that literally thousands of people are going to get healed, but I believe right now you are going to be set free of trauma in your life and any form of fear, every traumatic event from your entire life is going to be totally completely wiped out in a matter of moments. “Father right now in the Name of Jesus I send the word of healing into every single heart that is listening today. Father in the Name of Jesus I curse this spirit of trauma and fear and I command it to be gone, in Jesus Name any form of rejection, abuse, damage trauma from verbal abuse from physical abuse, whether from a parent a relative, a friend, a spouse, Father in the name of Jesus I command all of that trauma to go. And that abuse any damage to the heart, I curse any form of the spirit of grief, and sorrow and I command that heaviness to go in Jesus name. And Father, right now I just speak, oh I can’t get off that yeah, “Father in the name of Jesus, I command the spirit of abandonment to go, of worthlessness, of hopelessness and depression, to go in Jesus Name. And fibromyalgia is brought on by trauma and father right now in the Name of Jesus, I send the word of healing to those that are listening today that have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia or have symptoms of fibromyalgia. I curse that fibromyalgia in Jesus Name, I curse the spirit of pain that is attached to it; I curse any form of chronic fatigue syndrome command it to be gone in Jesus Name. And everybody say, “That You Jesus, Thank Yeshua, Father we just thank you for everything that you have done in Jesus Name, Amen.
Sid: Thank You Jesus! Thank You Yeshua, “I’m following instructions right now.”
Joan: That’s right.
Sid: You know Joan? There is, you have a story that is so amazing to me about a lady in Texas that was legally blind and if she could do it, anyone could do it. Tell me about her.
Joan: She came and it’s really a neat story, she came went to my Healing School and she was legally blind, she could see probably six inches in front of her face. And I you know prayed with her and got a little better and then prayed for her again, it got a little better and one day she went to the mall and she had to be lead around the mall. God told her to go to the mall and so she got lead around and she found three ladies and right in front of her she told her husband, “To stop I need to talk to these three ladies.” And went to the one in particular in the center and said, “God, sent me to the mall today to pray for you, is there anything that you need Him to do?” And that woman broke down and started weeping and weeping. She said God, when she got up this morning, she said, “God if you’re real send somebody to the mall to pray with me today.” And I want to be that person, I go into the different stores and malls or the grocery store or whatever and I’ll walk up to somebody and I’ll say, “God sent me here today.” because my steps are ordered of the Lord. And I told them, “Is there anything I can pray with you about? You or can be the answer to somebody’s prayer, and I want to encourage you to start praying for people in the grocery stores, outside the four walls of church, and by the way that ladies eyes are completely healed, she is driving today! So praise God, for that too. But God wants to use you, the missions statement of the ministry is to equip believers to take the healing power of God beyond the four walls of the church to the four corners of the earth. And God wants us to take Him out side to the four corners of the earth which is four corners of your world and these books will equip you to take His healing power with you wherever you go. And the four corners of the world is your four corners, is your family, your neighborhood, where you work and where you shop. And it doesn’t have to be India, it doesn’t have to be Africa, but it’s wherever you go that to take the healing power and the saving power of Yeshua everywhere you go.
Sid: And you know as you said on the Monday broadcast, everything that your parents put into you and everything that God put into you for this next generation you’re able to put together in these two books that we’ve made a package out of because they complement each other so well. The first book is “Healing the Wholeman Handbook” and this is a requirement, absolute requirement and your brand new book which they just can’t keep in print, “Power to Heal Receiving God’s Everyday Miracles.” Tell me what’s going on with your brand new book and I know that it’s only been out a short while.”
Joan: It’s only been out just a few weeks and it is just is selling and I’m excited about it, but I’m excited about the fact that it’s selling number one; who wouldn’t be if it’s your book, you know. But what’s exciting is that people, the comments I’m getting through email, through you know space book, through whatever, there saying, “This needs to be a required reading of all Christians because they are not only reading quote “A good book, they are reading a book that is setting them free; God has given me and has entrusted me with a revelation that’s in this book because he knows that I’m going to open my mouth on Sid Roth radio program and I’m going to put it in a book and I’m going to record it on CD’s and do whatever to get the healing power of God out around the world.
Sid: Well, as I explained to my Mishpochah we had more healing miracles occur and I believe some wonderful miracles have just taken place, but we had more miracles occur the last time you were on our radio and TV than we have ever had from any other guest and the anointing and the miracle ministry has just increased dramatically. Tell me about the person, real quickly that got new lungs.
Joan: Somebody in California, she came to me she had stage four cancer of the lungs and I said, “Father in the name of Jesus I curse this lung cancer and I command it to be gone, I curse every prion in this body in Jesus Name and Father in the Name of Jesus I speak two new lungs in her in Jesus Name.” He put the lungs in there the first time, he can put them in there again, all healed and whole in Jesus Name. And she went back to the doctor two weeks later, they did normal chest x-rays, like they do every month to check the progress of the cancer, the doctor came in and said, “I don’t know what you did, but you’ve got two new lungs in there. God’s putting new body parts in, lungs, hearts, livers and intestines, people that have had intestines removed God’s putting them all back and making it fully functional. It is just awesome what God’s doing.
Sid: Well, I know what I’m going to do, I’m going to turn your loose on tomorrow’s broadcast to move in words of knowledge and wisdom and release the miracle anointing. If you know anyone that’s sick, you get them to listen to tomorrow’s broadcast…
Sid: My guest in the studio is Co Producer of It’s Supernatural Television and Messianic Radio, Janie DuVall who’s also a Jewish Believer in Jesus and on yesterday’s broad cast you found out about what happened when I became radical, Red Hot, normal believer in Jesus. And you found out about how we started one of the first Messianic Jewish Synagogues in the United States and we bumped into a major revival. Janie, it is so wonderful to be in revival, every week Jewish people were coming to know Jesus.
Janie: And you said that was a freedom there, you said that you knew nothing. The two keys to me were that you were hungry and you were like little children that didn’t know anything and you just wanted Jesus, so you saw miracles.
Sid: And then, they realized I didn’t know much and so we got a Messianic Jewish Rabbi, a wonderful man of God, Manny Brotman who was ahead of an organization called the Messianic office so we shared office space and I have found, I would like to say that God’s Spirit lead me into the most significant things I’ve ever done. But that would be a lie, and I can’t say that. I have been literally pushed into the most significant things.
Janie: Is that including being on the radio?
Sid: Including being on the radio; I’ll tell you how it happened. I was in the oil business as I said sharing office space with Manny Brotman and I was able to supernaturally able to do my job so I devoted most of my time as a volunteer for Manny doing Jewish Ministry with him. And he really mentored me in understanding Jewish ministry. One day, a man from a Christian radio station comes in and says, “Manny you should do a radio show,” and then Manny said, “Well, I want you involved in this Sid.” And I said, “Sure, and I’ll be the behind the scenes person.” He said, “No, no you’ll be the announcer.” And I said, “I don’t want to be at a microphone.” And I mean, that was the last thing I wanted to do.
Janie: So you were pushed.
Sid: He forced me. So I was the announcer, I have to tell you Janie, my first radio show I thought that I could wing it; I could not…
Janie: What was it like; no really what was it like?
Sid: It was awful.
Janie: Ha-ha-ha-ha.
Sid: I mean I was awful, it was awful and so the next day, I wrote every word down. I’m just the announcer mind you; I’m not doing anything beyond announcing. I wrote every word down and I read it and it came out okay. But then an amazing thing happened; every time Manny had to interview someone for the radio show something would happen. Every single time and so if I didn’t do the job the show wouldn’t be done!
Janie: Oh, you mean something would happen, he would be not there and you would have to do it for him.
Sid: Oh, that’s what I meant.
Janie: Oh, so you replaced, oh wow, how interesting you really were pushed into this!
Sid: I know and I found out that I had a gift to interview, I would have never known that in a zillion years; and then TV was even more amazing. Now you at that time, you’d been working for me what eighteen years?
Janie: Well, basically I started in 1988 and then in 1995 I knew that you were supposed to be on TV; I knew that the world needed to see the miracles that we’ve been talking about on the radio; but they needed to see it. And so in 1995 that’s when we started the TV.
Sid: Well, the way we started it was supernatural.
Janie: It’s very amazing.
Sid: A women, a friend of mine, a Jewish believer in the Messiah called me up and said, “Sid, I’ve just deposited $25,000 in your name at a Christian Television Studio in Canada, go do your television show. And of course before I could tell her that I didn’t have a TV Show; and then when I told you about it. You said, “Oh, I’ve always wanted you to do it,” and so I got into TV because someone called me and that’s what I’m saying; “I’ve been pushed into everything that I’ve ever done for the Lord.” But you know, as I go back in time I see God’s hand even as a young Jewish boy when I was very, very young.
Janie: When you were young did you; okay you were brought up in Orthodox Jewish home.
Sid: Right.
Janie: Did you think about God at all?
Sid: God was a fire to me; I got that from my Father who got that from Moses and the burning bush and so no, God was not in my thoughts. I probably would have said, “I think that there’s a God; I believe there’s a God.” But He just wasn’t relevant to me.
Janie: Now, when you were six years old you had, I mean you were very afraid and what was that; you had these reoccurring thoughts; what was that?
Sid: Well, my Mother and Father use to be away at night; they use to gamble, they’d play poker and so I would be alone at night and I remember saying to myself, “I wish they’d come home, I wish they’d come home.” Somehow I thought as a little kid, if I said it enough, they might come home and then a thought popped into my head; now I know where the thought came from. At the time; the thought was. I mean just out of the blue this thought pops into my head. “What happens when you die?” And as a little child; and of course Judaism believes in life after death but we never talked about it.
Janie: So you didn’t know about Heaven.
Sid: No, I didn’t know about anything, so I figured my logical mind was well, in this was the progression; “When you die that’s the end of you.” So, then as a little child, I began to try to imagine, “What life would be like if I no longer existed.”
Janie: Oooo
Sid: And Janie, the thought was worse than ooo, it was so bad; whatever was me I wanted to continue living I didn’t want it to stop. And so I did the only logical thing I could do; I block it from my mind until many years later.
Janie: “Now, did you ever hear the name Jesus, did anyone ever say anything to you about Jesus growing up?”
Sid: I do remember a little anti-Semitism, I remember someone threatening me because I was Jewish, but I’ve had very little anti-Semitism, Jesus wasn’t relevant, I’m Jewish. Jewish people don’t believe in Jesus, so therefore he was totally irrelevant, I was happy with my religion, to be candid, with you although I was happy with my religion, I didn’t like going to synagogue because it was very boring. I went to an Orthodox Jewish Synagogue; everything was in Hebrew; I didn’t understand a word of what was.
Janie: So it wasn’t relevant,
Sid: It was agony is what it was and I remember I had a goal in life and I think it came from my great mentor, television. And the goal in life was to become a millionaire before I was age thirty. And I remember I blinked my eyes a few times and I graduated college; I blinked my eyes a few more times I was married; I blinked my eyes a few times I had a child; I blinked my eyes a few more times I had a wonderful job as a an account executive with at the time with the largest stock brokerage firm in the world, Meryl Lynch.
Janie: So did it look like you were getting close to being that millionaire?
Sid: By age twenty-nine, I knew I would not be a millionaire by thirty, I would have been a millionaire when I retired, I had a wonderful career ahead of myself, but it dawned on me I’m not going to be a millionaire and therefore I’m not going to be happy. And so therefore I have to do something about it; and I had what’s known as an early midlife crisis; I’m not proud of it, but I left my job; I Ieft my wife; I left my daughter and I went searching for happiness. But you know if you don’t know what you’re looking for it’s a big world out there.
Janie: “So what were you, so when you finally got out there in the world was anything making you even happy that you thought was making you happy or did you know that you were miserable?”
Sid: Well, to be candid with you I got married when I was young and I figured I missed the whole singles scene and I got involved in that and I felt that it was awful. I mean it was absolutely the pits. And so almost a year went by and things weren’t better, things were worse; I had been involved in an investment company, I had some employees working for me and one day one of my employees said, “Sid, I have a friend that had no physic ability and he took this meditation course and now he knows things that he never could have known before.” And it was almost a compulsion on my part, I said, “I’ve got to meet your friend and I was in Washington, DC and his friend was in New Jersey. And I drove to New Jersey to meet his friend and his friend told me all about this and so I immediately took this course because I figured if I could know things that my mind hadn’t been programmed, I then could make money, if I made money, I still might be a millionaire before age thirty and I could be happy.
Janie: But, you were such a logical guy, how could you even believe in that supernatural, even that kind of supernatural or were you desperate?
Sid: No, it wasn’t even that, I was actually always interested in the supernatural. I would go to fortune tellers and people that would tell you your fortune through reading cards. So and what I found is most of these New Age groups are loaded with Jewish people.
Janie: It’s true,
Sid: It says in the Bible we have zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. And so if people won’t tell us about Jesus and they don’t, well then we’re going to end up in the counterfeit.
Janie: That’s right, the wrong supernatural.