SID: “For me.” So that’s included. Nothing is impossible for God. Cindy, you were a heathen, a nonbeliever. Somehow you wandered in a church and someone invited you to a Andre Crouch concert. Why would you even go to a concert like that?

CINDY: Well, I didn’t know it was a concert. I thought it was a Chinese restaurant, so I wasn’t sure what was happening. I went to this place and I kept circling around and around, Will Rogers Auditorium in Fort Worth, Texas and then I saw the marque that said “Andre Crouch in concert tonight.” The power of God was so strong. I honestly didn’t know if I believed in God, but I felt the difference. I felt that God was there.

CINDY: Then he said a statement. He said, “If you have questions in the corners of your mind or places of discouragement and peace you can’t find, reach out and touch the Lord because He’s walking up and down these aisles,” and that’s exactly what I did.

SID: Huh.

CINDY: I literally reached out. When I did, I felt the power and the presence of God. I knew He was there, I felt like my lungs opened up, I felt like this fog cleared up over my mind, I thought there was 500 pounds that went off of my back. I thought, “I’m new. I’m completely, I’m brand new. I feel different than when I came in here.”

SID: In 1992, you and your husband started something called PUSH. What’s PUSH?

CINDY: We were in a real dry season. It seemed like spiritually we’d pastored for a number of years and we were just in a very dry season and we just thought, “We’ve got to have more,” you know? At that time my husband had been praying and he said to God, “People don’t like the church,” and God spoke back to Him and said, “They’ve never seen the church.”

SID: Hm.

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